Will Obamacare get its act together in time?

[Imran Siddiqui]

The Upton bill which just passed the house is bipartisan. 39 Dims and all the Republicans. Unlike Obamacare which had ZERO republicans.

I love this view of bi-partisan. I guess this means the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (aka, the Obama Stimulus) was bipartisan - it had, after all, 3 GOP Senators voting for it .

[Ben Kenobi]

I love this view of bi-partisan. I guess this means the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (aka, the Obama Stimulus) was bipartisan - it had, after all, 3 GOP Senators voting for it.

Which is still 3 more than Obamacare which had zero Republicans. Perhaps the Democrats should have read the bill before passing it?

[The Mad Monk]

YES.

[SlowwHand]

It was already stated by their leadership that it would be read afterwards. Doesn't make sense really, but there you have it.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

I love this view of bi-partisan. I guess this means the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (aka, the Obama Stimulus) was bipartisan - it had, after all, 3 GOP Senators voting for it .

How freakin sad and intellectually dishonest you have become. 39 represents 20% of the voting Dem members in the House. 3 represents (of which one turned Dem almost immediately) what 7% of the GOP senators a the time. Please just stop you embarrass yourself with each and every post.

[Imran Siddiqui]

So I'm guessing you are going to state that it has to be over 15% of the other party to term a bill "bi-partisan", to be revised with the next bill where the Republicans vote over 15% for a Democratic bill .

Seriously, a small rump of a party voting for a bill doesn't make something bi-partisan. You know what bipartisan means? It means like the vote on the Iraq War Resolution, where around 50% of Democrats voted for it, including leadership. Sponsored by Daschle in the Senate and Gephardt in the House.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

And still the pathetic continues.

[Ben Kenobi]

small rump of a party voting for a bill

37 house seats > PA + IL.

I suppose you wouldn't mind the states of Pennsyvania and Illinois going R next election?

[SlowwHand]

Bipartisanship is a political situation, usually in the context of a two-party system, in which opposing political parties find common ground through compromise, in theory. Wikipedia



I don't know that percentages are relevant. An even 50% seems unlikely.

[DinoDoc]

Are any of these fixes legal? Given the regulatory hoops these companies have to jump through in the states, how is the Federal Government going to unring the bell on these policies? And on what legal authority allows them to do so?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Doesn't matter, the intent was to get Obama/Dems off the hook and lay the blame on the insurance industry. He can then simply say "Hey we told the insurance companies to offer it, it's not our fault if they don't want to." This even though the reality is some of the insurance companies have pulled up stakes completely in some states because of the "previously" required changes.

[DinoDoc]

LASZEWSKI: Oh, Megyn, this just makes everything so much worse. This Obama administration has been building the healthcare.gov website now for three years now. They have got it all screwed up. It doesn't work. And now they are saying to the insurance industry you have to turn on a dime and redo everything.

You know, healthcare.gov says that everyone must purchase coverage by December 15 in order to be effective by January 1. December 15th is 31 days from now. The insurance companies now have 31 days to reverse everything they have been doing over the last few months with these cancellation letters. The administration is requiring the insurance company to send people a letter saying, here is the plan you've got now, here are the differences. Can you imagine how much work it's going to be? Every policy has got to have a letter talking about the differences. Then you got to send that letter through the U.S. mail. Then you have to give people a couple of weeks to make up their mind. Then they make up their mind, the insurance company has to redo the premium system, the banking system, collecting from people's bank accounts, change the provider directories. It's taken them months to get to this point. This administration can't get their website straight in three years and they want in 31 days for these insurance companies to change everything. It's logistically impossible.

This is about politics. This is about politics. The administration is in the hot seat here. It's got this hot potato. And what it's doing -- over cancellations, it's throwing it to the insurance industry and it saying, you have a choice. You can renew all these policies and take on a logistical nightmare you may not be able to get out from under, or you can tell people they can't keep their insurance. And the president is off the hot seat. If you're an insurance executive, which one do you choose?
Robert Laszewski: ObamaCare fix is 'logistically impossible'

[Ben Kenobi]

The real question - is if it's legal for Obama to change whatever he doesn't like, how is the individual mandate legal? If Obama can choose to ignore parts of the law that he doesn't like, so can we. Let him fine you to kingdom come.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Ohh and Rubio is targetting the Insurance Industry kickback cronyism portions of the ACA that won over the Insurers to Obamas side.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/rubio-presses-to-repeal-obamacare-provision-allowing-insurance-industry-bailout/article/2539212

[Sava]

20% of Democrats constitutes "bipartisanship"?

What kind of a moron would think this?