Anyone else (possibly) getting a mandatory vacation come Tuesday?

[Sava]

aw boooo... happens to me too

[Uncle Sparky]

Tee..Hee... Also cancelled: a weekend Ku Klux Klan rally at Gettysburg National Military Park in Pennsylvania.
Tea Party really shot itself in the foot there...

[-Jrabbit]

Wow, a rare 500-post thread. Nice to see Poly rallying behind Lori.

[Sava]

it's mostly just spamme and bk hatred

[-Jrabbit]

That was sarcasm, son.

[kentonio]

I occasionally pay you the courtesy of responding to your (always) stupid posts, so the least you could do is return the favor.

Ok, let's start with your previous post.

I very glad that kentonio completely ignored the fact that the Republicans would've gotten their way on Obamacare in 2010 if the US used the British system of government. I guess it's hard to bash America when its ****ed-up political system is actually holding back the political party that you mindlessly hate.

Ok, first of all your theory is wrong for several reasons. Firstly in the UK we don't hold elections every two years, which means that when a government has been elected to carry out a mandate, they have a clear four-five years to carry out that mandate as long as they don't stray too far from public opinion causing an early election. When Obama was first elected he could have enacted the law he was voted in to create without the nonsense that followed. The ensuing popularity of expanded healthcare would never have been repealed because gosh people like having healthcare.

Probably more importantly however, when people vote in the UK although technically they are not voting for a national leader or party at all, in practice a large majority of people are doing exactly that. If 2010 had been a national election under our system then perhaps the GOP would have swept into power (conveniently ignoring that Obama had only been in office a couple of years of course), but in that case the GOP would have been running the country and you wouldn't have this nonsensical and idiotic situation where a president gets elected twice and spends his whole time having the other party blocking everything he tries to do. Because elections are held every four years however, you don't tend to get the same kind of 'protest vote' that you saw in 2010 because people understand that they are electing a government not just part of one, and they will have to live with that choice for 4 years.

As for your little snip about how I mindlessly hate the Republicans that's actually pretty funny. Until midway through Clinton's term, I was much more a Republican supporter than a Democratic one. The sad thing is that for too many Americans who've lived so close to US politics, they just can't see how out of control, extremist and downright repulsive the modern GOP has become. They stand for nothing other than corporate wealth and power, they despise women, minorities, and foreigners, and their politics have gone so far past any kind of logic or reason that in many cases they simply make no sense at all. We're living in an age when the GOP sneer and laugh a man like Jon Huntsman out of the primaries while cheering on Michelle Bachmann and Rick (OMFG) Santorum.

The GOP needs to be ripped apart and taken back and rebuilt by the moderates. It was a proud party once, and America desperately needs two strong moderate parties for your system to work. Until that happens however I'm proud to openly hate the monster that it's become. Anyone who can stand up and proudly call themselves a member of the Republican party right now needs to seriously reexamine their morality.

I'd love to hear you try to explain why the Republicans' behavior is so terrible in this case when they're doing exactly what any democratically elected lower house is expected to do. The Republicans are only failing to fulfill the mandate they were granted by the voters because the US system gives much greater veto power to an obstructionist upper house and independent executive than the superior Westminster system does.

The American system is utterly reliant on compromise between the major parties. Your entire system is built on the premise. The only time that compromise is irrelevant is when the American people see fit to vote a single party into complete control of congress and the white house. The American people voted just a year ago to reelect a President who promised them healthcare. At the same time a minority of Americans elected a small Republican led house. I'm very curious how you see that as a mandate by the America public to abolish Obamacare.

As for the expectation of the lower house to be that they shutdown the running of the US government and threaten to default on the US debt unless their minority demands are met, that's just inane. Which should be pretty obvious to anyone who can read an opinion poll right now.

[Sava]

That was sarcasm, son.

Okay old timer.

[Sava]

[The Mad Monk]

Meanwhile, back at the memorials...

They have wired the WWII memorial barricades together...


...and kept the WWI memorial as-is.


...yeah.

[Sava]

Government is useless and the shutdown won't matter.

or

OMFG THANKS OBAMA YOU MONSTER

Which is it?

[DaShi]

The memorials are a distraction from the real issues. Yes, we get this is your agenda, MrFun. And seriously, you couldn't have picked a more retarded example.

[DaShi]

Eric Cantor: "We want fairness. We are against policies that favor special interests for some and not for others. So we are passing legislation to fund to only a few special parts of the government." :crazy:

[Sava]

Cantor is a fucking douchebag.

[Ben Kenobi]

Interesting to see the slow motion battle between the WWII vets and the government. The reason he doesn't need to shut down the WWI memorial is that they are all dead.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Government is useless and the shutdown won't matter.

or

OMFG THANKS OBAMA YOU MONSTER

Which is it?

Both