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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostHorsecrap. You yourself claimed, "the widow was already married", and then quickly backtracked.
she's a widow and the command in deut 25 is for the brother to marry her, not the bachelor brother as you claimed, just the brother regardless of his marital status
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she's a widow and the command in deut 25 is for the brother to marry her, not the bachelor brother as you claimed, just the brother regardless of his marital status
The nonexistant one he is already married to, or the widow? Again, I see no evidence that the brother who marries his brother's widow is already married. The text actually states:
If brothers are living togetherScouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Yet he seemingly knows more about Christianity than you. Whodathunkit..Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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What a ridiculous supposition.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostYou said, "his wife is already married". Which wife? This is ambiguous.
The nonexistant one he is already married to, or the widow? Again, I see no evidence that the brother who marries his brother's widow is already married.
Why if both are married would they be doing so?Last edited by Berzerker; September 18, 2013, 23:04.
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it doesn't give him a loophole out of the command if he's already married.
Extended families often live together, but Deut 25 suggests they're living in the same town. If the brother-in-law refuses, the widow is to inform the town elders.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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I'm out of my depth here
The brother already married has preserved the patrimony
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then read Deut 25, it makes no exception for brothers that are married.
You added the requirement of bachelorhood.
God commanded polygamy
... And God gave David many wives, so its illogical to say polygamy is a sin.
Not if he wont marry the widow of his brother, its the name of the deceased being preserved.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostThis is an argument from silence. You're essentially saying that because Jesus didn't explicitly say X, that it must be condoned. This is a bad argument.
This is a Talmudic scholar question.
No. He did not. God tolerated polygamy just like he tolerates sin. He permits people to indulge in it but he does condemn it. There are many, many examples in the bible where God extolls a faithful wife and a faithful husband.
Right. That's because David is held up as a model of faith in God and he never sinned.
The family name will pass just as easily through younger son as older son.
and btw, Ishmael's sons and the peoples and towns they founded are mentioned in the NT - in Galatians Paul speaks of the gentile seed from Abraham. Thats them...Last edited by Berzerker; September 19, 2013, 01:03.
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostThe preposition that someone who isn't a Christian would have a better understanding than a Christian of his own faith is no different than the art critic's opinion on the artists.
You being you though, you just make up your own version of the bible to suit your own interpretation. Your hubris is simply mind-blowing.
Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostIt's easy to criticize, hard to do. Try it. Find out.
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I don't think you have to explain yourself to St. Peter in the age to come . Though my view of that age isn't the good ole evangelical 'you go somewhere else' type of corruption of Scripture. Ben would likely have to face judgment from God before his sins were to be burned off in the cleansing fire before he (and all of us) could go live in the new heaven & new earth.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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