An explanation for Oerdin's magical Obamacare premium drop

[Dinner]

There are a huge amount of cost savings to be made in US hospitals without sacrificing care one tiny bit. In the UK the average child birth runs just ~$15k where as in the US they run from $35k-$50k just for a vaginal birth before you even get into C-sections which up the costs dramatically. We just have an extremely inefficient medical sector full of waste and middlemen who drive up costs without improving care for patients. You'll notice Princess Kate got the exact same treatment as every other new mom in the UK and she declared the care to be first rate. This is despite it costing less than half what it would in the US and nothing out of pocket for the people receiving care.

In the long run NHS style universal care delivers top quality care at a fraction of the price.

[Krill]

...wait, you guys don't even have community nurses, who visit people in their home to treat people?

[regexcellent]

I have a friend whose mother does that.

[Krill]

She's a qualified nurse (or equivalent or better?)

[Dinner]

...wait, you guys don't even have community nurses, who visit people in their home to treat people?

Nope, such individual treatment in the home is restricted to the extremely wealthy as it is prohibitively expensive. Remember that next time HC claims US health care is so much better.

When my mother had a stroke she did get a limited number of at home out patient visits but they were all 15-25 minutes long and were only with the physical therapist and only because my father ranted, raved, and threatened to sue the insurance company if they didn't.

[Ben Kenobi]

You are paying for nothing. Even if you are paying more for a good, at least you are receiving a service in return - so it doesn't subjectively feel as a loss. I think it'll be enough to push a lot of folks over, esp as the loss for nothing increases.

Again, whether someone chooses to purchase a service will depend on the value of that service to them. Charging more for a service than the client believes the service to be worth won't motivate them to pay more for it.

[regexcellent]

She's a qualified nurse (or equivalent or better?)

Yes, an RN

[MrFun]

...wait, you guys don't even have community nurses, who visit people in their home to treat people?

For wealthy Americans, yes they can obtain such services.

[Wezil]

Craigslist

[Krill]

Yes, an RN

Cool. That's the way most services are moving the UK: it's cheaper to pay 1 nurse to visit people in their own home (where they eat their own food and with the comfort of family) than to keep them in a building attended by medical professionals.

For wealthy Americans, yes they can obtain such services.

STFU Commie.

Craigslist

I wonder, would it be cheaper to pay for a hooker or a nurse?

[Wezil]

Or a combo for the premium service.

[MrFun]

STFU Commie.

I gave you a no-bullshit, matter-of-fact answer to your post, and this is the thanks I get.

[Krill]

Unlike HC you may actually have a set of ethics that wouldn't be described as deviant by most of humanity, but also unlike HC you are retarded.