That Ordinary Kid Sure Can Play A Mean Pinball

[DaShi]

Damn it Ben! No one cares!

[snoopy369]

Yeah. Imagine that you're deaf. Your main examples growing up are Helen Keller and that's about it. You have the folks who know nothing telling you how to live your life and what the expectations are on you. Then you have other people also saying what you'll never do and expressing surprise when you actually are able to do normal people stuff like drive a car, go out on a date, etc.

I was very lucky. The deaf ghetto is quite real, most of it is caused by these folks and their expectations as to how the world should work. They want to provide support so that folks like me never have to earn a living, just like we never have to go to school and learn useful things because that might be too hard for us.

So yeah, **** them.

I'm still not sure how this is related to the thread - are you favoring the real lyrics of Pinball Wizard or opposing them?

[Ben Kenobi]

I'm still not sure how this is related to the thread - are you favoring the real lyrics of Pinball Wizard or opposing them?

I'm saying that many non-deaf people don't have a clue, and that many non-deaf people changing things because of what they perceive is offensive towards us have missed the boat entirely on Pinball Wizard.

It's one of the few - positive - depictions of deaf people being actually good at something. I'm saying that as a deaf man I *love* Pinball wizard. It's a great song and it's got a great message and it meant a lot to me as a kid.

The bull**** diversity morons censoring stuff *they* don't like when they aren't even deaf is just that, bull****. **** em. Tired of them telling me how to live my life and what I should be doing with it!

[-Jrabbit]

Right on.

[snoopy369]

I'm saying that many non-deaf people don't have a clue, and that many non-deaf people changing things because of what they perceive is offensive towards us have missed the boat entirely on Pinball Wizard.

It's one of the few - positive - depictions of deaf people being actually good at something. I'm saying that as a deaf man I *love* Pinball wizard. It's a great song and it's got a great message and it meant a lot to me as a kid.

The bull**** diversity morons censoring stuff *they* don't like when they aren't even deaf is just that, bull****. **** em. Tired of them telling me how to live my life and what I should be doing with it!

Ahh, ok. Agreed. (I wonder if it's "dumb" that's really objected to here, but I don't think it's any worse; "dumb" means "unable to speak" ("mute"), and the current slang usage derives from that. It's like objecting to a song that uses "gay" in the original meaning because of its new meaning.)

[Ben Kenobi]

FWIW I also like "Drop it like it's Hot", and that's a pain in the ass to find uncensored both the video and the lyrics. The censoring totally ruins the flow. Censoring Snoop Dogg isn't going to do **** all about your gang problem. How about actually getting up and doing some policing? Imagine that.

[Ben Kenobi]

(I wonder if it's "dumb" that's really objected to here, but I don't think it's any worse; "dumb" means "unable to speak" ("mute"), and the current slang usage derives from that. It's like objecting to a song that uses "gay" in the original meaning because of its new meaning.)

Eh, that's the whole point of the damn song! People think you're worthless because you aren't the same. Just because you can't hear doesn't mean you can't think. The disability is an interface problem not an operating problem.

[snoopy369]

I'm saying I wonder if people censor it because they think "dumb" is offensive [because it now means something other than 'cannot speak', ie, 'stupid']. Still a silly reason to do it, of course. Most censorship is silly.

[Tupac Shakur]

Oh, you know the song, "Shot Through The Heart", by Bon Jovi?

No, I don't. Is it as good as "You Give Love a Bad Name"?

No article, I couldn't find one.

I'm shocked that this very important story wasn't covered by the press. Media bias...

[The Mad Monk]

It was on local radio, that's how I found out about it.

[Alexander's Horse]

Why do so many good threads end up being about Ben and his issues?

[giblets]

Because that's the only thing Ben is interested in talking about?

[Alexander's Horse]

my last post was either rhetorical or an own goal, you decide

[Uncle Sparky]

Your 'power tool' video made this thread worth while.

[Alexander's Horse]

don't it, makes every day worthwhile

Unfortunately I showed it to Mrs Horse, out of some misguided sense of marital transparency, so she knows from the music when I play it