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  • Oslo running out of trash.

    It looks like the people in Oslo have gotten so good at recycling that the city is having trouble running it's power plant, which runs by burning garbage.

    Oslo's So Good at Recycling that It's Run Out of Trash

    Norway's capital city has a serious waste management issue—they're way too good at it. Half of Oslo's 1.4 million residents rely on a steady stream of refuse to power their appliances and heat their homes. Problem is, there just isn't enough trash to go around.
    Burning municipal waste—everything from household trash and industrial scrap to toxic, hazmat, and medical refuse—is big, big, business in Northern Europe. “Northern Europe has a huge generating capacity,” Pal Mikkelsen, head of Oslo's waste-to-energy agency, told the NYT, with more than 400 waste-to-energy plants currently operating in the region thanks to a multi-decade boom in plant construction. “There’s a European waste market — it’s a commodity,” Rooth Olbergsveen, senior adviser for Oslo’s waste recovery program, added. “It’s a growing market.” Unfortunately, this glut of capacity far outpaces the area's rate of trash production.
    Overall, Northern Europe only produces about 150 million tons of burnable trash a year and yet they've built out their incineration capacity to support 700 million tons. The trash shortage has gotten so bad that municipalities have taken to not poaching disposal contracts from neighboring counties but importing it from other countries—England alone exports some 1,000 tons of trash annually. “I’d like to take some from the United States,” said Mikkelsen. “Sea transport is cheap.”
    No matter how it gets to Oslo, the trash always ends up the same way: a pile of ash and a puff of flue gas. Incinerators burn municipal waste as a fuel source to produce heat, which boils a large amount of water into steam which then drives an electricity-generating turbine. This system is roughly 14 to 28% electrically efficient but with cogeneration systems that recycle the process waste heat into hot water for homes and flue gas condensers which recycle the fumes for biogas (which powers some of Oslo's metro bus lines), overall system efficiency jumps to between 80 and 100 percent. What's more, it reduces the garbage's mass by about 80 percent and its volume by about 90 percent, all while cooking contaminants and destroying toxins at high heat.
    Unfortunately, there's no short term solution to Oslo's crippling trash shortage. Of course if city officials get really desperate, they can always check in with Naples, those guys are still digging out from the city's waste management crisis in 2011.
    Norway's capital city has a serious waste management issue—they're way too good at it. Half of Oslo's 1.4 million residents rely on a steady stream of


    Maybe we can send them Rupert Murdock's newspapers or something since everyone knows they're nothing but trash.
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  • #2
    Perhaps California can ship them some.
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    • #3
      Yup, we sure can. I'll just cut off everything south of Bakersfield and set it afloat.
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      • #4
        Pretty weird situation.
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        • #5
          so's your face
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #6
            recycling is actually more expensive than just sending trash to the dump, a prime example of environmental tokenism
            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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            • #7
              recycling offends me because i am freely supplying raw materials without compensation

              go dig in a landfill if you want what i throw away
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Alexander's Horse View Post
                recycling is actually more expensive than just sending trash to the dump, a prime example of environmental tokenism
                Something being more expensive does not make it unnecessary or undesirable. Making baby formula using arsenic may well be cheaper than what we use now, but it's probably not a great long term strategy.

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                • #9
                  sure, recycle your little hearts out for all I care, but don't complain when your Council rates go up because you now need three bins instead of one for example
                  Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                  Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                  • #10
                    I'd rather throw out a few useless civil servants than stop recycling.
                    "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                    • #11
                      It creates jobs for civil servants, that's one reason recycling is so economically backward
                      Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                      Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                      • #12
                        Well sure is nice if other countries pay you your civil servants, and your energy supplies, so unlike oil where you pay others for energy, in Scandinavia others give you the energy and pay you for it on top.

                        If that's not win-win, I don't know what is...
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                        • #13
                          look don't me wrong, I don't want any civil servant comrades losing their jobs...
                          Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                          Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Alexander's Horse View Post
                            sure, recycle your little hearts out for all I care, but don't complain when your Council rates go up because you now need three bins instead of one for example
                            It's not a complicated situation, landfills are terribly inefficient ways of disposing of rubbish and recycling not only resolves that but also makes us less horribly wasteful with our limited natural resources. Seems a pretty weird thing to object to really.

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                            • #15
                              It's cheaper to use new plantation timber than recycle old paper.
                              Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                              Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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