We Told You So: The New "Obamacare Sux" Thread

[Guynemer]

Again, your statement was bizarre and nonsensical. Reposting it does not change that.

[PLATO]

There are many terrible things about Obamacare. The ones already mentioned in this thread to just name a few.

However, while the legislation needs to be radically overhauled, I became a believer on at least one or two of its provisions. The pre-existing condition and guaranteed coverage provisions hit close to home not to long ago.

My wife's brother, who has lived in rural Alabama all of his life, never finished high school. He took a job in the construction industry at an early age and has made his living as a self employeed framer. He has never had insurance, and has very very rarely ever seen a Doctor. He is, in many ways, stereotypical for what many of my Yankee friends here think of a Southerner.

Last year, he developed a rare blood disease that caused horrific skin problems. While I am sure that it is related to screaming "Roll Tide" at every opportunity, the Doctor said that the causes are varied and practically impossible to nail down. As his liver is involved in this disease, I believe that the six pack or two he consumes daily may have something to do with it.

Nonetheless...He has had very little work since the housing industry collapsed (rural Alabama is building next to nothing right now), and he is living very much hand to mouth.

Naturally, being the conservative that I am, I directed him to his county health department (The existing "free" care that is already in our system). Well...live and learn. They told him that they could see him...in 3 weeks! Okay...so he can't wait that long so he gets an appointment with a regular Doctor. This Doctor won't see him until he pays $150 upfront. Naturally you can guess who had to send him the money. Doctor sees him and guess what. $420/mo in prescriptions + $150/mo in some type of blood letting procedure! At this point, paying for his damn insurance would be cheaper, but guess what? You got it! Now it is a pre-existing condition and "No insurance for you!".

Okay...so Obamacare has its uses. Still a bad law, but it does have some redeeming qualities.

/me sneaks away in corner to hide from other conservatives.

[Tupac Shakur]

However, while the legislation needs to be radically overhauled, I became a believer on at least one or two of its provisions. The pre-existing condition and guaranteed coverage provisions hit close to home not to long ago.

So the provisions of Obamacare that make it unworkable (and the individual mandate a necessity) are the ones you believe in?

[SlowwHand]

Guy, ....

Why don't you talk about my reading comprehension skills again?

[PLATO]

So the provisions of Obamacare that make it unworkable (and the individual mandate a necessity) are the ones you believe in?

Yeah...ironic isn't it? Oh well....

[Tupac Shakur]

Guy, ....

Why don't you talk about my reading comprehension skills again?

How are we supposed to talk about something that doesn't exist, Sloww? You clearly have racism where your reading ability should be.

[Ben Kenobi]

Plato - I have a pre-existing condition. The 'solution' of single payer, at least in Canada is to pretend I don't exist and that I can't get the proper care + coverage and equipment.

I sympathise - but here's the problem. What is going to happen is that health care will be rationed, and you aren't going to get the coverage that you need when you need it. You'll be the first ones cut off, and even worse - private coverage will be difficult/impossible to find and you'll be paying the full freight.

[Tupac Shakur]

No badmouthing of Canada's healthcare system in this thread. It's much better than either Obamacare or America's pre-Obamacare healthcare system.

[DinoDoc]

No badmouthing of Canada's healthcare system in this thread. It's much better than either Obamacare or America's pre-Obamacare healthcare system.

It's an arguable statement wrt the Pre-Obamacare situation. It's definately true now.

[Tupac Shakur]

It's an arguable statement wrt the Pre-Obamacare situation.

No, it isn't. Cost controls > no cost controls.

[Ben Kenobi]

No badmouthing of Canada's healthcare system in this thread. It's much better than either Obamacare or America's pre-Obamacare healthcare system.

I've seen both. I've lived under Canada's system pre Obamacare, and lived under America's system pre and now, post Obamacare. Aside from maybe KH, who else here has had the same experience? KH also isn't from rural Canada - which is very different from urban Canada. Canada's system is much better on the surface than in reality. Canada's system is terrible - why take the worst parts of it to make American healthcare worse?

[Al B. Sure!]

Don't blame me. I voted for Romneycare.

[SlowwHand]

You still don't ""Kuelewa"", Tupac Drake?

[Krill]

I'm just waiting for someone to comment on the monetary cost of trying to keep old people near death alive for another few weeks...

[Al B. Sure!]

I sent this to a female and she blocked me on facebook after telling me to **** OFF. Seriously. I can't see her profile anymore.


Thanks, Drake