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  • #16
    USA'asians are actually quite funny. They prefer to pay obscene amounts of money to greedy companies to take care of their health instead of paying way less to a system that can handle all citizens and in that way improve the wealth of the society.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
      Single payer is worse.
      Please explain why everyone paying less is bad.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by kentonio View Post
        Please explain why everyone paying less is bad.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
          "Please explain why I am wrong while working under the assumption that I am correct"
          Please explain how single payer could result in any outcome other than everyone paying less.

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          • #20
            Even single payer would be better than Obamacare, and reg and HC are both socialists to be arguing against just how bad Obamacare is.

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            • #21
              Single payer is always better. Imagine one employer for the whole world. How much would you be paid?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                Expanding medicaid will improve health care for people who become eligible. That's self evident.
                No, it's not.
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                • #23
                  If you believe that unborn children are persons - then rejecting Obamacare means you believe that human lives are more important than Obamacare. False Dilemma.
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                  • #24
                    So those who oppose Obama's healthcare reform, or those who support these Republican governors action toward Medicare, I have a question.

                    What advice would you give to those people in the article who have very serious illnesses or diseases? Where should they go, to get the medical care they need?
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                    • #25
                      Well the woman with high blood pressure and a bad heart should probably eat a slightly less awful diet. Poor people have choices beyond the dollar menu at McDonalds. Grains and legumes are cheap, provide complete proteins, and are a staple for billions of poor people all around the world. They're nowhere near as expensive or hard to find as fresh fruits and vegetables. Cook a **** ton of rice and beans on Sunday, stick it in the fridge, and you're good all week. Paleotards might hate on rice and beans, but their diet is a luxury that many people can't afford.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Felch View Post
                        Paleotards
                        Your diet vs. my diet. Shirtless pictures or STFU
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Felch View Post
                          Well the woman with high blood pressure and a bad heart should probably eat a slightly less awful diet. Poor people have choices beyond the dollar menu at McDonalds. Grains and legumes are cheap, provide complete proteins, and are a staple for billions of poor people all around the world. They're nowhere near as expensive or hard to find as fresh fruits and vegetables. Cook a **** ton of rice and beans on Sunday, stick it in the fridge, and you're good all week. Paleotards might hate on rice and beans, but their diet is a luxury that many people can't afford.
                          Changing her diet now would be good, but after getting this SERIOUS illness/disease, it won't save her life. I'm asking you what would you suggest to her, to get MEDICAL CARE.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                            Changing her diet now would be good, but after getting this SERIOUS illness/disease, it won't save her life. I'm asking you what would you suggest to her, to get MEDICAL CARE.
                            Liberals are big on social justice while conservatives want personal justice. If people need to die for their mistakes, it is only just! Should have known better before stuffing their faces, opening their legs, or pulling that trigger.
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                            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                            • #29
                              Why is it your assumption that she should get medical care?
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                                Liberals are big on social justice while conservatives want personal justice. If people need to die for their mistakes, it is only just! Should have known better before stuffing their faces, opening their legs, or pulling that trigger.
                                So you think every person who has cancer, heart disease, diabetes, stroke, or what have you, should be denied medical care. Would you apply this same barbaric, uncivilized principle to your friends and family?

                                Should veterans who serve in Iraq or Afghanistan be denied medical care if they get wounded or traumatized for serving, because it was their own choice?
                                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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