We are in the midst of the 148th anniversary of Sherman's march to the sea.

[MRT144]

Sherman comes through, destroying everything in his path, and burns Atlanta. I'm waiting to hear how that buys good feelings in the South.
"We want to be one, after we kill your civilians, take your livestock, burn your crops and burn down Atlanta." Explain it to me.

Bitter almost 150 years later. This was just a honeypot for loser southerners who still think about the civil war.

[Hauldren Collider]

I don't think it was a war crime any more than the bombing of Dresden or Hiroshima. But we don't go around celebrating the bombing of Hiroshima--not because it was a war crime, but because you're basically applauding death. Alby's comment is rather sickening, but it's about what I've come to expect from him. It also shows he completely fails to understand why Sherman did it. It wasn't some roaring rampage of revenge, it was to break the Confederate economy.

[MrFun]

And that same attitude exists today, so much time later. Yet you wonder at the audacity of talk of secession again. Nothing has changed. The South is still scum to you.
Real smart.

The North seems to still appear to be scum to many white Southerners today. Don't try to pretend that the animosity is only coming from parts of the North.

[MrFun]

If waging a military operation entirely against the civilian population of an area (as the March was almost completely unopposed by the CSA military) with the stated goal being to make said civilians suffer as much as possible is OK and morally just, Al and yourself owe the Israelis an apology for your arguments against their actions given they are quite mild in comparison.

What are your thoughts about all the civilians who died in Japan from the atomic bombings in World War II?

[DinoDoc]

I don't think it was a war crime any more than the bombing of Dresden or Hiroshima.

"Can you not send over to Fairmount and Adairsville, burn 10 or 12 houses of known secessionists, kill a few at random and let them know it will be repeated every time a train is fired upon from Resaca to Kingston." - General Sherman wrote to U.S. Brig. Gen. Louis Douglass Watkins at Calhoun, Georgia, on Oct. 29, 1864

[giblets]

So secessionists fired at trains and then complained when the Union soldiers burned their houses and killed a few of them? They're even bigger crybabies than Palestinians.

[MrFun]

I don't remember you ever talking much about the atrocity committed at Ft. Pillow, DD. Oh that's right; Confederates forces NEVER committed ANY atrocities during the Civil War, right?

[Hauldren Collider]

We're talking about Sherman here, MrFun, no one is valorizing the Confederacy, even if we aren't constantly qualifying our statements about Sherman with "BUT KEEP IN MIND THE SOUTHERNERS HATED BLACK PEOPLE".

[Hauldren Collider]

The North seems to still appear to be scum to many white Southerners today. Don't try to pretend that the animosity is only coming from parts of the North.

I think you're the one pretending here. Internal migration in the US is such that you won't find many southerners who care all that much whether someone is from the North or South, or at least feel any special hatred towards them.

[kentonio]

Not glamourizing, but certainly playing the victim card. Considering the fact it was generations ago and that the 'victims' had just started a war to maintain their 'right' to keep millions of black people like animals to be worked to death for their personal profit, it's hard to find an awful lot of sympathy.

[Hauldren Collider]

No one is saying you should agree with their cause, but you should be conscious and respectful of the cost to human life of your actions, no matter who you are fighting. That doesn't mean what Sherman did is wrong. It means that it is regrettable, not something to be celebrated.

If the Israelis took the attitude you are taking towards the Confederacy, they would have flattened Gaza and evicted the Arabs from the West Bank. The moral beliefs of most Palestinians (by opinion polls!) are at least as repugnant as the Confederacy's.

[Dinner]

If the zombie Sherman were to do it again then at least it would solve Atlanta's traffic problem. Then they could rebuild the city using sound urban planning guidelines.

[Hauldren Collider]

If the zombie Sherman were to do it again then at least it would solve Atlanta's traffic problem. Then they could rebuild the city using sound urban planning guidelines.

No, if zombie Sherman were to do it again, he should flatten Washington, D.C. The traffic there is far worse than Atlanta's and the people there are rightfully hated.

[MrFun]

I think you're the one pretending here. Internal migration in the US is such that you won't find many southerners who care all that much whether someone is from the North or South, or at least feel any special hatred towards them.

I don't care if a person is from the north or south. But I find gross, willful ignorance about the American Civil War to be reprehensible.

[Hauldren Collider]

There are a lot of personality flaws worth caring about a lot more than whether someone is willfully ignorant of a war that happened over 100 years ago.

Here's an example:

I don't know about you but I still get a little hard when I think about Sherman's March