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  • #61
    Does anybody remember who the last person on this forum to drop an N-bomb was?
    John Brown did nothing wrong.

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    • #62
      If the bodycount and/or prestige of position determines the level of scandal facing a President, then Obama has a lot of catching up to do if he wants his legacy of American deaths to surpass Bush.
      In terms of American ambassadors, so far the count is Bush, 0, Obama, 1. There hasn't been an ambassador killed since Carter.
      Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Felch View Post
        Does anybody remember who the last person on this forum to drop an N-bomb was?
        Does anyone know who the last person on this forum was to drop the F-bomb was? Oh wait - and the person who dropped the N-bomb did so, in reply to the F-bomb to make a valid point.
        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by MrFun View Post
          Does anyone know who the last person on this forum was to drop the F-bomb was? Oh wait - and the person who dropped the N-bomb did so, in reply to the F-bomb to make a valid point.
          The f-bomb is ****. You'll have to come up with another term to mean ******.
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #65
            Quit grasping. You're going to have to come up with some real evidence, if you want to continue this.
            “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
            "Capitalism ho!"

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            • #66
              Oh, and pure hindsight. Even in that article. Soon you'll run out of cherries.
              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
              "Capitalism ho!"

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              • #67
                Sure. Ok.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #68
                  DD, your argument is that the State Department should have removed the consulate based entirely on hindsight. The fact is that they were aware of the dangers, but did not have enough evidence to believe that there would be a coordinated attack. The articles you didn't read mention all this. Posting articles alone doesn't prove your point. You've got to use your brain.
                  “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                  "Capitalism ho!"

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                  • #69
                    I guess if you have to blame anyone for this, then it would have to be the House Republicans who have cut security for our diplomats, including the Benghazi consulate. No wonder they weren't prepared for a coordinated attack!
                    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                    "Capitalism ho!"

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                    • #70
                      DaShi: The argument that they should have removed the consulate staff is based solely on the situation as it existed prior to 9/11/12 which caused both the UK (Their ambassador had been the subject of an assassination attempt himself) and Red Cross to pull out due to the security situation in Benghazi leaving the US as the last Western representatives in the city. The American consulate had been the subject of at least one attack before and the staff was clearly worried about the state of security at the Benghazi consulate. What part of the run up to this situation screams competence on the part of the State Department to you?
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                        Does anyone know who the last person on this forum was to drop the F-bomb was? Oh wait - and the person who dropped the N-bomb did so, in reply to the F-bomb to make a valid point.
                        John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                        • #72
                          I'm not saying there isn't an argument for removing the consulate. I'm saying that that argument is now being made in hindsight. US consulates and embassies have been attacked before, some successful and some not. Mistakes were clearly made. Otherwise, this would not have happened. However, it remains unclear where the blame will fall and likely not not be addressed at all. Nor does it reflect incompetency from the State Department. Had this not been made a political issue, more would be done actually to identify what went wrong and what are the lessons learned than to shift blame. That there are so many complaints over what Rice and Obama said at the time demonstrates this.
                          “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                          "Capitalism ho!"

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                          • #73
                            Let's not even pretend that this has anything to do with learning lessons. Unless that lesson is that crying fake tears about dead people you never gave a **** about before can actually be quite politically convenient.

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                            • #74
                              Does anyone know who the last person on this forum was to drop the F-bomb was? Oh wait - and the person who dropped the N-bomb did so, in reply to the F-bomb to make a valid point.
                              The category, "gay people who are racists" still has only one member.
                              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by DaShi View Post
                                I'm not saying there isn't an argument for removing the consulate. I'm saying that that argument is now being made in hindsight. US consulates and embassies have been attacked before, some successful and some not. Mistakes were clearly made. Otherwise, this would not have happened. However, it remains unclear where the blame will fall and likely not not be addressed at all. Nor does it reflect incompetency from the State Department. Had this not been made a political issue, more would be done actually to identify what went wrong and what are the lessons learned than to shift blame. That there are so many complaints over what Rice and Obama said at the time demonstrates this.
                                This is all pretty reasonable. I'm not too perturbed by what was said, so much as making sure this doesn't happen again. My beef is with people who want to give the administration a pass, because that makes it more likely for this whole thing to be forgotten.
                                John Brown did nothing wrong.

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