Is the Republican party done?

[giblets]

George Bush recognized the obvious reality that the GOP needs Latinos. However he was too weak willed to pursue them against the wishes of the idiots.

Y'all hate George Bush, some for the right reasons, most for the wrong ones, but he was no idiot.

The problem must have been temperament then because he screwed up big time.

[Al B. Sure!]

Alby, Cubans overwhelmingly vote for Republicans.

What is your point? How is that a response to me saying 1) they don't care about immigration and 2) Hispanics are not a monolith?

On top of that, in this very thread, only a few posts above, I said:

50 years ago, the GOP lost the surest and most stalwart supporters of the Republican party, who had voted overwhelmingly Republican for a century: African Americans. Then in the last few decades, we've seen all but Cuban Americans break from the Republicans. Now, what has happened to the Asian American vote? In 1992, Bush Sr. received 55% of the Asian vote to Clinton's 31%. Asian Americans were solidly Republican voters. Now in 2012? Obama carried 73% of Asians! There's a big elephant in the room in the shrinking GOP tent and it's demographics. For various reasons, the Republican party has lost its strength since its founding: diversity.

What is the point of your post?

[Imran Siddiqui]

I think he simply misread your post, Alby. No need to get ornery.

[Al B. Sure!]

What has happened to Asian support for Republicans? Anyone know? It's such a dramatic shift but it doesn't get talked about. Socioeconomically and in terms of social values, Asian Americans fit the profile of Republican voters. What gives?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Asian Americans, more 2nd generation and beyond, tend to be more socially liberal (as they are culturally more like highly educated whites).

Also, they aren't Christian and get scared sometimes of the overt Christianity, which has become more openly pronounced, of the Republican party (remember George W. Bush, while openly Evangelical, took GREAT pains to make sure he respected people of all faiths).

[regexcellent]

I think it's because of the recent wave of Asian immigrants. Immigrants tend to go for democrats. So the people who have been here since the California gold rushes and the people who built the railroads across the country, they were voting Republican, but now the new people form, say, Korea or whatever, are voting Democrat.

I could very well be wrong.

Imran: A LOT of Koreans are Christian. I see Korean churches all over the place. The dry cleaner/tailor I go to is Korean (obviously ) and has prominent Christian stuff all over her shop.

[giblets]

What has happened to Asian support for Republicans? Anyone know? It's such a dramatic shift but it doesn't get talked about. Socioeconomically and in terms of social values, Asian Americans fit the profile of Republican voters. What gives?

A lot of them live in the West coast states which have been trending in that direction.

[Al B. Sure!]

I've never met a Buddhist Asian. They seem overwhelmingly Christian in America, even immigrants. Korean barbershops are filled with icons of Jesus.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I've never met a Buddhist Asian. They seem overwhelmingly Christian in America, even immigrants. Korean barbershops are filled with icons of Jesus.

WTF?

You do also, btw, realize that lots of immigrants from Asia aren't necessarily from the Eastern part of the continent, right? The ones from South Asia are overwhelmingly Hindu or Muslim.

[giblets]

It's kind of impossible to generalize about Asians since they're even more diverse than the Hispanics. It's probably just a symptom of the general impotence of the modern GOP when it comes to minority outreach.

[Hauldren Collider]

There are many kinds of "asians". There's far-east/southeast Asians, which consist of Koreans, Vietnamese, Chinese and Japanese folks. As much as they like to pretend they're all super culturally different, after around 8 years of going to school with a class that is around 30-40% Asian, my experience has been that they're really not. Then there are Indians, which just should be considered Indians instead of being lumped together. Then there's people from the Middle East like Pakistan who are again for no particularly good reason lumped in one group with everyone on the world's largest and most populous continent.

[MRT144]

I've never met a Buddhist Asian. They seem overwhelmingly Christian in America, even immigrants. Korean barbershops are filled with icons of Jesus.

Baptist missionaries hit Korea hard.

[MRT144]

Saying this election was the GOP's to lose does not respect the advantage that an incumbent has merely by being an incumbent. Barack Obama was never a pushover opponent and the fact that he won by a smaller margin the second time around is noteworthy.

As much as the Republicans are focusing on the South and Midwest, the Democrats are throwing away their hopes for them. The amount of ground lost in Florida, Virginia, and North Carolina are important to consider, as well as in several midwestern states. I think we're going to see in the future the Republicans winning a lot of the Midwestern states that are now firmly in the hands of the Democrats. Midwestern states have the least racial diversity of anywhere in the country and some of the oldest populations. Their cities are smaller and more suburban, and they have a lot of populated rural areas.

The social war issues are not killing Republicans. Independents in this election were not concerned with that. People already in the Democratic column might have been energized by that. But social issues were never a focus of the presidential campaign. They were used as a distraction by Obama to fearmonger his base.

Honestly, the way conservatives went on about how awful and out of touch Obama was with America, it should be more surprising they didn't win.

[MrFun]

What has happened to Asian support for Republicans? Anyone know? It's such a dramatic shift but it doesn't get talked about. Socioeconomically and in terms of social values, Asian Americans fit the profile of Republican voters. What gives?

Maybe that whole glorifying-white-men offends the sensibilities and intelligence of Asian American voters?

[Felch]

WTF?

You do also, btw, realize that lots of immigrants from Asia aren't necessarily from the Eastern part of the continent, right? The ones from South Asia are overwhelmingly Hindu or Muslim.

We're not in Britain, practically nobody calls a Muslim "Asian" in America. Even if you're from Pakistan, you're probably classified as "White." While I've met Buddhist Asians (not being as cloistered as Alby), he's right that many identify as Christian.