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    Holy ****...



    Florida man kills door-to-door salesman: I’ll kill anybody that steps on my property

    A man in Cape Coral, Florida on Wednesday was arrested for shooting and killing an unarmed door-to-door salesman on his property.

    Kenneth Bailey Roop, 52, has been charged with second-degree murder for killing 30-year-old Nicholas Rainey.

    A co-worker who witnessed the shooting said Rainey had knocked on Roop’s door, but received no answer. While Rainey was walking down the drive-way, Roop pulled up in his pickup truck and asked why Rainey was at his house. Rainey explained that he was selling steak and seafood. The witness said Roop then pulled out a black handgun and shot Rainey. As Rainey lay on the ground, Roop fired another bullet into the back of his head.

    Roop later told police that he shot Rainey in the head “for effect” and that he had three no trespassing signs on his property. Roop said he feared for his life.

    “I’m not going to give him the chance to do something to me,” he told police. “I was in fear.”

    An off-duty Collier County sheriff’s deputy was nearby and heard the gunshots. When she arrived at Roop’s property, she found Rainey dying on the ground while Roop was in his garage reloading his handgun.

    “He was telling the officer, ‘he stepped on my property, he trespassed, I’ll kill anybody that steps on my property,’ somewhere along them lines. It was just unbelievable,” one witness told the The News-Press. “She never flinched. She deserves a medal. I don’t think he was done [shooting].”

    The deputy ordered Roop to drop his weapon and held him at gunpoint until police officers arrived.

    Roop’s neighbors described him as “the neighborhood crazy.” Roop has a concealed weapons permit and approximately 14 firearms.
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    I'm thinking this is not an example of that law.

    Edit: and second degree murder? WTF! the guy delivered a coup de grace.
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    • #3
      Will this put an end to Mormon missionaries and Jehovah's Witnesses knocking on peoples' doors uninvited?

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      • #4
        If you think some Florida law is going to prevent this man from being prosecuted you're mistaken.

        Originally posted by gribbler View Post
        Will this put an end to Mormon missionaries and Jehovah's Witnesses knocking on peoples' doors uninvited?
        Wow, do they actually bother you? All you have to do is politely say you're not interested.

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        • #5
          This is not covered by stand your ground. It is, however, covered by second-degree murder.

          Also, HOLY ****ING **** this man is insane.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
            I'm thinking this is not an example of that law.

            Edit: and second degree murder? WTF! the guy delivered a coup de grace.
            The reason it's second-degree is because it could not have been premeditated. But this guy is going to jail for a looooong time.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
              If you think some Florida law is going to prevent this man from being prosecuted you're mistaken.



              Wow, do they actually bother you? All you have to do is politely say you're not interested.
              I don't really care but I'd prefer if they'd mind their own business.

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              • #8
                "For effect"???
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                • #9
                  not his property anymore, i reCKon.
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                  • #10
                    No trespass/no soliciting methinks. I've ran into crazies like this. If it says no soliciting, just move onto the next house...
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                    • #11
                      So the guy deserved it? What is your point, Ben?
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                      • #12
                        So the guy deserved it? What is your point, Ben?
                        Well, let's see. I had a cop pull a handgun on me, similar to this. Had to sit for 2 hours and listen to his lecture about how he moved where he was so he didn't have to deal with other people, all while his wife and kids were in the car and just wanting to get home. And I didn't even step on the guys' property, just drove up to his driveway and rang the intercom. Awful fancy place for a cop - wonder how much he's skimmed off the top.

                        I had another crazy call the cops on me, who had me arrested at 11pm at night when I stopped at a friend's house to chat and catch up. Bells and flashing lights. At least the Sargeant had the decency to release me at my own recognizance.

                        I have all kinds of stories of crazies working as a delivery driver. Was assaulted once by this black dude who thought I was trying to scam him out of money by giving him 27 whatever off his 50 on a 22 bill. He couldn't do the math to understand that 27.30 + 22.70 = 50.

                        99 percent of the folks - ok.

                        1 percent pure crazy - just stay out of their way and leave them be.
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                        • #13
                          Ben is right. The world is full of morons and lunatics. Walk up to a stranger's door and ring the doorbell at your own peril. But his intuition about cops is probably wrong since they don't need to skim taxpayer money, they just need to accept bribes from drug smugglers and sell confiscated drugs.

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                          • #14
                            The spraypainted plywood 'KEEP OUT' sign is the perfect antidote. That's the code between salesmen and crazy for "we will leave you be and you will never be bothered". It should be mandatory in the state of Florida.
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                            • #15
                              As I see it administering the coup de grace constitutes premeditation. The victim was already on the ground, bleeding, possibly dying and the shooter thought for a second and decided to make sure that he died. That's premeditation.

                              I wonder, if some of the neighborhood kids had managed to accidently land their frisbee on his lawn would he have gunned them down when they attempted to retreive it?
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