Pointless referendum on Scottish independance set for 2014

[Hauldren Collider]

So would it be considered a personal union just like pre-1707 or would there be a governor general like in Canada?

[Dinner]

An independent Scotland would be swiftly bankrupted if England raised the prices on Buckfast, lard and heroin.

I had to look up what Buckfast was and on the wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckfast_Tonic_Wine) the very first thing you see is "Photo of an empty bottle of Buckfast Tonic Wine in a park in Glasgow"!

Ahh, bless them. The next photograph is even better:

A bottle of Buckfast in the street. Buckfast's perception as being involved with street drinking, public intoxication and anti-social behaviour has caused controversy in Scotland.

Something tells me the article was written by an Englishman.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

If the Scots really wanted independence, they'd extend the referendum to allow the English to vote.

[Dinner]

Short answer. The relationship with the Crown is a subtle and flexible one.

India is a republic that crowned Elizabeth as Empress.

I think you are talking about the Queen Mum (Elizabeth Angela Marguerite Bowes-Lyon) who was called "Empress of India" as part of her official title until the day she died (in 2002) but this is because she was married to King George VI who was officially "Emperor of India". By some strange quark of fate royalty are allowed to continue using such titles even if the country in question is no longer officially part of their empire. It's like how former US Presidents still get called "Mr. President" even though they're no longer in office. It's an honorific.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Let's not forget that nearly every English king from 1340 to 1800 also had the title "King of France". The French begged to differ.

[kentonio]

They still should have that title, France definitely belongs to us in a moral sense.

[MikeH]

Something tells me the article was written by an Englishman.

No, that's definitely the perception in Scotland, a lot of people in England wouldn't really know what it was.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

FREEDOM!!

[kentonio]

Why do they act like we conquered them or something?

[OneFootInTheGrave]

James VI conquered England on behalf of Scotland , on which the eventual union was based, so really it should be the English who would be seeking independance, and not the Scots. It's all English deception and trickery, first hostility and ultimately assimilation of the monarch and then monarchy in their own name .

[notyoueither]

I think you are talking about the Queen Mum (Elizabeth Angela Marguerite Bowes-Lyon) who was called "Empress of India" as part of her official title until the day she died (in 2002) but this is because she was married to King George VI who was officially "Emperor of India". By some strange quark of fate royalty are allowed to continue using such titles even if the country in question is no longer officially part of their empire. It's like how former US Presidents still get called "Mr. President" even though they're no longer in office. It's an honorific.

And that right there is why fact-checking yourself is a good idea.

I could of sworn I saw or read something about Elizabeth II during a trip to India.

[Dinner]

Why do they act like we conquered them or something?

I imagine many SNP voters learned everything they know about Scottish history from watching the movie Braveheart.

[molly bloom]

Why do they act like we conquered them or something?

Considering how well the Scots did out of the empire- exchanging one wet cold midge ridden poverty stricken country for the delights of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and assorted other pink coloured bits on old maps, I think they can hardly complain. They also got to kill a lot of French in the Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars, and heaps of fuzzy wuzzies, Muslims and assorted inhabitants of the Indian sub-continent and Africa, whilst eating foreign food.

Sounds like a typical night out in Sauchiehall Street.

[Dinner]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-20018183

[notyoueither]

Just another snake cult.