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  • #76
    A debate convinces very few voters. Most people know how they'll vote and a debate just solidifies their reasoning.
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    • #77
      I think we should all listen to what Jayne Cobb has to say...

      Originally posted by Adam Baldwin
      Thank you @MittRomney. A great debate from a Great American!

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      • #78
        Oerdin:
        Obama snoozes and loses

        DENVER - One word of advice for Barack Obama before his next debate: Caffeine.

        I had a Pepsi right before the debate started Wednesday night and was tingly for the next 90 minutes.

        President Obama looked like someone had slipped him an Ambien.

        The first presidential debate of 2012 took place at the University of Denver and was between Obama and Mitt Romney. But only Romney showed up.

        For much of the debate, it appeared as if Obama, the former professor, and not Obama, the presidential candidate, was on stage.

        It’s not that Romney’s performance was perfect or polished - - it wasn’t - - it’s just that Obama’s was so mediocre.

        It is possible Obama was overconfident, but I doubt it. He is not a foolish man. So I think he was just overtired or over-distracted or over-something. But he sure wasn’t over-energetic.

        Maybe Jen Psaki, his traveling press secretary, was preparing us when she said on Air Force One Sunday that Obama “has had less time to prepare than we anticipated. That’s just a fact. It’s difficult to schedule significant blocks of time when you’re the president.”

        Mitt Romney, by comparison, seemed bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. He seemed to enjoy being there.

        He was far from profound. “My priority is putting people back to work in this country,” he said.

        And: “I love great schools.”

        Trite? You bet. But at least he spoke in reasonably short sentences.

        Obama often sounded like he was defending a doctoral dissertation. His thoughts seemed to range from lengthy to endless.

        Mr. President, shorter is better. Really. We are a society with a short attention span.

        Complex problems do not require complex answers. Not on TV, they don’t. Once a candidate is safely elected, he can be as long-winded as he wants in the White House and even before Congress.

        But he has to get elected. And it’s a little early for Obama to fall on the ball. Which is where he seemed to spend most of the evening Wednesday.

        And, by so doing, he let Romney get away with a lot.

        “Mr. President, you’re entitled to your own airplane and your own house, but not to your own facts,” Romney said in one of the few zingers of the debate.

        Couldn’t Obama have replied in kind? Obama could have said something like: “And you, Gov. Romney, think you’re entitled to car elevators and Swiss bank accounts!”

        Too nasty? Too unpresidential? OK, you may be right.

        But how does Obama get through an entire debate without referencing Romney’s infamous “47 percent” statement even once?

        I didn’t expect Obama to bring up how Romney caged the family dog on the roof his car, but I thought at least Obama might bring up Romney’s refusal to release any significant number of his tax returns.

        But, no, Obama took the high road. The very long high road. Here is Obama on the health care crisis. I don’t expect you to read all 190 words of it, but I will reprint them anyway.

        Obama: “There are two ways of dealing with our health care crisis. One is to simply leave a whole bunch of people uninsured and let them fend for themselves, to let businesses figure out how long they can continue to pay premiums until finally they just give up, and their workers are no longer getting insured, and that’s been the trend line. Or, alternatively, we can figure out, how do we make the cost of care more effective. And there are ways of doing it. So at Cleveland Clinic, one of the best health care systems in the world, they actually provide great care cheaper than average. And the reason they do is because they do some smart things. They — they say, if a patient’s coming in, let’s get all the doctors together at once, do one test instead of having the patient run around with 10 tests. Let’s make sure that we’re providing preventive care so we’re catching the onset of something like diabetes. Let’s — let’s pay providers on the basis of performance as opposed to on the basis of how many procedures they’ve — they’ve engaged in.”

        You know what? On the merits, Obama was absolutely correct in his analysis. And at least several people were still awake by the end of it.

        Am I arguing for triviality and sound bites and acting dumb? Absolutely not. Obama’s goal can be to become the smartest one-term president in history.

        But I think his supporters, those people who really believe in him and what he is trying to do, will be expecting a little more from him in the next face-off.

        “I think this was a terrific debate,” Obama said near the end of the evening.

        And it was. For Mitt Romney.

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        • #79
          Oerdin has his head in the sand.
          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
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          • #80
            Apparently **** just got real for Romney. Wonder if he can keep it up?

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            Motorcade is rolling from the debate venue at 8.39 pm.

            In an amusing moment, poolers were sitting in the Press One van outside the debate hall and the driver said “I think that Romney did real good.” There was a moment of baffled silence, before our steno , Bec, put two and two together and said “guys we are in the Romney van.” Blind panic then ensued as we piled out the van and sprinted towards the correct motorcade, which was parked right in front of Romney’s. Disaster was narrowly averted.


            That amused me a little.
            Last edited by DinoDoc; October 4, 2012, 01:00.
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            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #81
              It mattered for Reagan.
              "I knew Reagan, and you, sir, are no Reagan."

              Not sure who's mind it will sway. Those who are voting for Obama will stick with him no matter what.
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              • #82
                Bring up Romney releasing tax returns? Now wouldn't that open a can of president eating worms? Hardly likely that Obama wants to bring up releasing records.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #83
                  Hardly likely that Obama wants to bring up releasing records.
                  I have more documentation than he does. Which is sad, really. That he could become president without a birth certificate just astonishes me. I have to show my paperwork just to park my **** car.
                  Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                    That's about right.

                    Basically, WTF Obama? He looked like he was about to fall asleep during the damn thing.
                    I work nights, so I could not watch the debate. But my partner, Neal, said that Obama sometimes had a scowl on his face.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      "I knew Reagan, and you, sir, are no Reagan."

                      Not sure who's mind it will sway. Those who are voting for Obama will stick with him no matter what.
                      And those who are voting for Romney will stick with him no matter what.
                      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                      • #86
                        You've hit a new low for worthless input.
                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                          I have more documentation than he does. Which is sad, really. That he could become president without a birth certificate just astonishes me. I have to show my paperwork just to park my **** car.
                          This is because he's a natural born citizen of the US. We get all the perks. (Except the possibility of dual citizenship)

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                          • #88
                            Nice to know Al still has a gay obsession for me.
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                              And those who are voting for Romney will stick with him no matter what.
                              Last I saw undecideds were like 4% or 5% of the total voting population and most of them are so politically uninvolved it's questionable if they'll even vote. The hard truth is virtually everyone who is going to vote has already made up their minds.
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                              • #90
                                This is because he's a natural born citizen of the US. We get all the perks. (Except the possibility of dual citizenship)
                                Then why doesn't he have to supply proof of it to get on the ballot?
                                Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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