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  • #76
    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    How is that 1,2,3 any different from any other politician? All of Obama's gaffes have proceeded that way.
    Not very often.
    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
    "Capitalism ho!"

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
      The 47% figure is rather high, but I think he correctly observed that there's a substantial part of the democratic base that votes democratic because they see themselves as victims deserving government entitlements. Is there anyone who really believes that's false? The only thing I could see someone really disagreeing with here is whether or not they actually are victims.
      I think it's false. That you think it is correct only further convinces me that it is false.

      He then comments that they won't vote for him because they want their entitlements they feel they have a right to, and it would be fruitless to try to sway them. Again, simple statement of fact. Who really disagrees? I'm almost inclined to think that this wouldn't be such a ****storm if he had said it at a public rally. Something about it being in private makes it seem vaguely seedy.
      I disagree. Romney is looking for someone to blame for his falling poll numbers. The reason he said this to donors is to say, "It's not me, it's them!"
      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
      "Capitalism ho!"

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View Post
        Wow. That may be the single most poorly conducted poll since survey monkey.
        “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
        "Capitalism ho!"

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
          The 47% figure is rather high, but I think he correctly observed that there's a substantial part of the democratic base that votes democratic because they see themselves as victims deserving government entitlements. Is there anyone who really believes that's false? The only thing I could see someone really disagreeing with here is whether or not they actually are victims.
          1. Entitlements is a ridiculous word which tries to paint recipients of government support as pathetic money grabbers.
          2. Being a low wage earner does not make you a ****ing victim of anything other than an unfair and unbalanced system. When someone can work 80 hours a week and still not earn enough to feed, clothe and shelter themselves and receive decent healthcare then yes that's an unfair system.
          3. Like Romney you seem to not see the irony of passing judgement on other peoples circumstances when your own has been so incredibly easy.

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          • #80
            Coincidence?

            New Gallup poll: Romney 46 — Obama… 47!
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #81
              You forgot to mention..

              The survey was taken before the current furore over comments made by the Republican nominee in a fundraiser at Boca Raton, Florida in which he said that 47 per cent of Americans were dependent on the government and 'it's not my job to worry about these people'.

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              • #82
                Oh and Reuters/Ipsos have it at 5 points as of yesterday.

                http://news.yahoo.com/obamas-lead-ov...010626775.html

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                  Coincidence?
                  Of course, but still amusing.
                  "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                  "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                  • #84
                    He has such a way with words..

                    Originally posted by Romney
                    "I do believe we should have enough jobs and enough take home pay to allow people to pay taxes," Romney said. "I think people would like to be paying taxes."
                    But not millionaries and billionaires, right Mitt?

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                    • #85
                      I could help you with your problem Ken.
                      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                        You forgot to mention..
                        You forgot to mention the fact that Romney saying 47 percent of the country won’t vote for him because they feel entitled to a handout seems to have caused the unemployment rate to stay over 8 percent for the 43rd consecutive month — more time over 8 percent than the last 11 presidents combined — as the poverty rate shot up to the highest level since 1965.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                          Of course, but still amusing.
                          It amused me as well.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #88
                            Are we really going to talk about how Romney lost the election when he's up 47-45 in Rasmussen's tracker and down 47-46 in Gallup's?

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                              It amused me as well.
                              It was like the Chinese stock exchange ending on the numerical equivelant for the Tiananmen date on the anniversary of Tiananmen ("-64.89").
                              "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                              "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Tupac Shakur View Post
                                Are we really going to talk about how Romney lost the election when he's up 47-45 in Rasmussen's tracker and down 47-46 in Gallup's?
                                Rasmussen? Why don't you just quote some Fox News viewer surveys too.

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