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  • #91
    I'm sorry, I don't see how it follows that someone making a video mocking mohammed is responsible for some people reacting to that video by murdering completely uninvolved parties.

    I don't think he'd even be responsible if they attacked him, although there would be a clearer link.
    Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
    Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
      This.

      Too often we, unfortunately, link responsibility to "legal responsibility" and not moral responsibility. There is a far deeper level of responsibility than simply what is not illegal.
      Oh please. You have no moral responsibility to arab savages. I can say whatever the **** I want, to act as though that is the cause of this brutality is to suggest that these people are automatons programmed to turn into mob killers when someone says the magic words. But now that I think about it, that theory might actually have something to it.

      These people are barely recognizable as human. I rate their cultural sophistication as somewhere between Maori cannibals and Jersey Shore.
      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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      • #93
        We can all agree the videomaker is an *******.

        But we should also all agree that someone being an ******* is never grounds to murder them, let alone someone who just happens to come from the same country as the *******. And the responsibility lies purely with the murderers.
        Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
        Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
        We've got both kinds

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        • #94
          You know, if only Stowe hadn't published Uncle Tom's Cabin, some southern slave owners may not have felt compelled to make examples, and just maybe that one slave would have kept his ear.
          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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          • #95
            Wait, I thought Zevico was the bigot in this thread? Did we change things up without anybody telling me?
            <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
            I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
              Oh please. You have no moral responsibility to arab savages. I can say whatever the **** I want, to act as though that is the cause of this brutality is to suggest that these people are automatons programmed to turn into mob killers when someone says the magic words. But now that I think about it, that theory might actually have something to it.

              These people are barely recognizable as human. I rate their cultural sophistication as somewhere between Maori cannibals and Jersey Shore.
              This is outrageous racism.

              Completely unacceptable.
              Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
              Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
              We've got both kinds

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              • #97
                Originally posted by MikeH View Post
                This is outrageous racism.

                Completely unacceptable.
                "These people" refers strictly to the set of people who are responsible for this. I don't see how it's racist to classify such a group.
                If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                  Oh please. You have no moral responsibility to arab savages. I can say whatever the **** I want, to act as though that is the cause of this brutality is to suggest that these people are automatons programmed to turn into mob killers when someone says the magic words. But now that I think about it, that theory might actually have something to it.

                  These people are barely recognizable as human. I rate their cultural sophistication as somewhere between Maori cannibals and Jersey Shore.
                  We have moral responsibility to all people. Division leads to violence. Now, some will most definitely overreact to anything, but I don't understand why that means a deliberate provocation gets passed aside because the overreactees are "savages". We don't have a moral right to be jerks simply because the people who overreact are violent *******s.
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                    "These people" refers strictly to the set of people who are responsible for this. I don't see how it's racist to classify such a group.
                    And when used in conjunction with "arab savages"?
                    Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                    Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                    We've got both kinds

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                    • Originally posted by MikeH View Post
                      And when used in conjunction with "arab savages"?
                      Arab savages = the subset of arabs who are savages. This group completely encompasses anyone who shoots people over something posted on Youtube.
                      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                      • Not "the subset of humans who are savages".

                        Read it through. In context it's outrageous and might not represent what you meant, but it sounds horrendous.
                        Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                        Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                        We've got both kinds

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                        • Originally posted by MikeH View Post
                          Exactly. Not "the subset of humans who are savages"
                          Well we're not talking about ****ing aztecs in this thread. If you want my assurance that I think cannibalism and ritual sacrifice is bad too, you can have it.
                          If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
                          ){ :|:& };:

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                          • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                            So we're supposed to believe the U.S. Embassy in Cairo no longer speaks for the Obama Administration? Apparently the 3:00 a.m. call finally came and no one was home.
                            Firstly, not even the ambassy apologized.

                            Originally posted by Cairo Embassy
                            The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions,"
                            The only people who have apologied for anything so far?

                            Originally posted by el-Megarif
                            "We extend our apology to America, the American people and the whole world,"
                            Oh yeah, that'll be the Libyan President..

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                            • I was kind of shocked it wasn't Oerdin who wrote that, FWIW.
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                              • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                                Oh please. You have no moral responsibility to arab savages. I can say whatever the **** I want, to act as though that is the cause of this brutality is to suggest that these people are automatons programmed to turn into mob killers when someone says the magic words. But now that I think about it, that theory might actually have something to it.

                                These people are barely recognizable as human. I rate their cultural sophistication as somewhere between Maori cannibals and Jersey Shore.
                                Wow. I've always believed you were a decent person despite disagreeing with you about most things. It now seems you are actually an extremely unpleasant little racist. You should be absolutely ashamed of that post.

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