The Rapture?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Furthermore, though this is obviously a Catholic source:

http://www.ewtn.com/library/papaldoc/jp2tb51.htm

It is significant that speaking of the "works of the flesh" (cf. Gal 5:19-21), Paul mentions not only "fornication, impurity, licentiousness...drunkenness, carousing." This is everything that, according to an objective way of understanding, takes on the character of carnal sins and of the sensual enjoyment connected with the flesh. He names other sins too, to which we would not be inclined to also attribute a carnal and sensual character: "idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger, selfishness, dissension, party spirit, envy..." (Gal 5:20-21). According to our anthropological (and ethical) categories, we would rather be inclined to call all the works listed here sins of the spirit, rather than sins of the flesh. Not without reason we might have glimpsed in them the effects of the lust of the eyes or of the pride of life, rather than the effects of the lust of the flesh. However, Paul describes them all as works of the flesh. That is intended exclusively against the background of that wider meaning (in a way a metonymical one), which the term flesh assumes in the Pauline letters. It is opposed not only and not so much to the human spirit as to the Holy Spirit who works in man's soul (spirit).

[Imran Siddiqui]

Why are you encouraging him to sin?

Do you not recognize a Christian rebuke when you see one? Ie, you have done much worse than you accuse Elok. Hence, it is you who should take the plank out of your own eye first.

[Kidlicious]

Do you not recognize a Christian rebuke when you see one? Ie, you have done much worse than you accuse Elok. Hence, it is you who should take the plank out of your own eye first.

That is no christian rebuke. It's based on hate and bias, worse you show no concern for Elok. I did nothing to deserve what he said, but worse he attacked christians who he doesn't even know and put them down.

[DaShi]

Here's a sort of koan for you: Kid is bonkers, but he is wiser than you, for he is not silly enough to spend time arguing with Kid.

Kid may be bonkers, but at least he doesn't talk to himself.

[Kidlicious]

As far as the debate, I've lost my desire since you've been so rude.

I'll say these two things. We simply do not call people heretics. And two if a body isn't evil, why does it have to be transforme?. As far as your source goes, it doesn't make a very convincing argument.

"What, in Paul’s view, is a human being? Although he has not left behind a carefully-crafted discourse on human nature, there is an anthropology implicit in Paul's writings. In order to extract this anthropology, it is necessary to examine the anthropological terms that Paul uses."

It wasn't Paul's intention for you to "extract an anthropology." Sorry but nonsense.

[DaShi]

Kid is right. It's time we shed our bodies and enter the next stage of human existence:




Anime. The answer you are looking for is anime.

[loinburger]

Who could have possibly predicted that Kidicious would be a rapture-ready douchebag - he seems to invariably adopt all of the worst that Christianity has to offer. Likely an accident of geography is the only reason that he's not a member of the Westboro Baptist Church.

The intention is not to brag. It is to convince others to believe.

You mean that rapture-ready douchebags put these bumper stickers on their cars in the hopes that somebody will walk up to them in the parking lot and say "hey, can you teach me how to be a self-righteous ***** too?" How many times do you think that this has happened in the history of bumper stickers?

[Kidlicious]

Who could have possibly predicted that Kidicious would be a rapture-ready douchebag - he seems to invariably adopt all of the worst that Christianity has to offer. Likely an accident of geography is the only reason that he's not a member of the Westboro Baptist Church.



You mean that rapture-ready douchebags put these bumper stickers on their cars in the hopes that somebody will walk up to them in the parking lot and say "hey, can you teach me how to be a self-righteous ***** too?" How many times do you think that this has happened in the history of bumper stickers?

You're either lying or you don't know what you are talking about. It's probably a little of both. Any good christian is not self-righteous. Everyone has the sinful nature within them. To acknowledge that you have a sinful nature is not prideful or self-righteous. And neither are bumperstickers proclaiming such.

[regexcellent]

Nobody's mind is going to be changed at a red light. Political and religious bumper stickers make you look like a douche. There have been a few that have made me laugh, but they're mostly retarded. I have a magnet for my university on the back of my car and that's it.

[loinburger]

Any good christian is not self-righteous.

I believe you. This is why you and the rest of the rapture-ready crowd are not good Christians.

[Kidlicious]

Nobody's mind is going to be changed at a red light. Political and religious bumper stickers make you look like a douche. There have been a few that have made me laugh, but they're mostly retarded. I have a magnet for my university on the back of my car and that's it.

I don't think you can really say what will change people's minds. It's really between them and the Holy Spirit. But we are commanded to spread the word. Putting a bumpersticker on your car is one way. You're going to be called a douche and worse. That is the cost of being a christian.

[Wezil]

Nobody's mind is going to be changed at a red light. Political and religious bumper stickers make you look like a douche. There have been a few that have made me laugh, but they're mostly retarded. I have a magnet for my university on the back of my car and that's it.

The one I see around here:

"Out of a job yet? Keep buying foreign."

It's distributed by the autoworkers. Last time I checked GM and Ford were US companies.

Also, the closest car plant to me is a Toyota plant...

[Wezil]

dp

[Kidlicious]

I believe you. This is why you and the rest of the rapture-ready crowd are not good Christians.

Because I just told you that I have a sinful nature? Nice logic.

[Wezil]

But we are commanded to spread the word. Putting a bumpersticker on your car is one way. You're going to be called a douche and worse. That is the cost of being a christian.

Westboro thinking.

You nailed it in one Loin. Well done sir.