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  • 1) I don't know anyone who has advocated that everyone in the world ONLY buy local foods and even if someone did there is exactly zero chance such a thing would ever be widely adopted so that's not even worth talking about.

    2) I buy local food because it is fresher (compared to grapes which spent two weeks being shipped from Chile) so it not only tastes better but it also lasts longer so there is less spoilage and I'm more likely to have less wastage because I can actually eat it before it goes bad. Second of all the heirloom varieties on offer from local small time farmers are different from what is on sale at the supermarket; the big packing companies want to maximize other things besides just taste (hard skins for shipping without bruising, brightest color, disease resistance, etc) where as virtually all heirlooms are maximized first and for most for flavor or for one specific task (stewing or baking or juice apples or tomatoes just to give an example) so they almost always turn out better in my cooking.

    3) I do try to buy American when ever possible and reasonable. If the price is fairly close and the quality seems similar then I will deliberately buy American over a foreign import because when people do that then Americans work. If the price difference is huge or if the American made item doesn't really compare well then sure I will buy foreign but tie goes to the home team in my book and, yes, if enough people did that then we'd have a lower unemployment rate in this country.

    4) It is a false dichotomy to claim "the land could be better used as something else" because I see tons and tons of small time farmers, CSAs, and even nonprofits making use of wasted space to garden and thus produce something of value out of a space which was either not being utilized or being under utilized. Examples include the tops of buildings, old car parks, people's backyards (Is having it as a dead lawn really better economically?), unused margins on the sides of roads, corners of pubic parks, etc... The land is tended either by volunteers who enjoy doing it in their spare time, by employees paid for by the CSA, or nonprofit (again, if these people are willing to work for the wages offered then great but don't give me horse **** how everyone should be doing something better because not everyone is qualified to do something better) and finally they get sold at the farmers market either by the owner or an employee so once again we've improved the local economy.

    Lastly, manly cities (such as my own) have special public markets where every business must be a locally owned small business and where everything sold in the market must be grown/built/processed/produced with in a certain distance from the market and this really does help increase the number of local small businesses and give consumers additional choices as to where and what to spend their money on. This is simply part of the free market and if you don't like it then you really aren't a capitalist.
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    • Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
      Explain that to the people who mow the lawn at the White House.

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      • WRT green house tomatoes... Even if you live in an area which requires a green house to grow tomatoes you can probably still grow them half of the year without a green house and for the other half of a year how you heat the green house makes a huge difference. Sure, if you use natural gas then the GHG impact becomes large but I've seen plenty of green houses which use compost (and the heat of decomposition) to warm the green house instead of fossil fuels. Heck, even an unheated green house with triple pane windows will raise the temp 20 degrees easily. Even just a cheap poly tunnel with composting organic matter on the floor and hanging baskets or shelves above it results in significant passive heating (enough to grow in many climates) without contributing any new GHGs. An organic farm is going to compost any way so why not let that waste heat do the work you need for you?

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        • Keep on claiming local is not possible.
          Christ. Is this the latest hippy bull**** cause designed to cripple folks? Economies of scale > local bull****. Saskatchewan alone could grow enough wheat to feed the entire West and then some.
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          • I don't know anyone who wants to only eat local grains. Like I said, it's not applicable to all areas in all food stuffs. No one is trying to grow bananas in Alaska though when the price is reasonable, yes, giving the tie to the local producer does indeed help the local economy and I'm all for that. Just like with any other item though with food there is the added bonus of it being fresher, often is a variety not commonly sold on the mass market, and that there is less wastage do to the fact that the item hasn't spent as long in transit. That means I have more time to consume the food in question before it spoils and we all have the problem of food going bad before we can eat it. Reducing that saves me money.
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            • I don't know anyone who wants to only eat local grains. Like I said, it's not applicable to all areas in all food stuffs. No one is trying to grow bananas in Alaska though when the price is reasonable, yes, giving the tie to the local producer does indeed help the local economy and I'm all for that. Just like with any other item though with food there is the added bonus of it being fresher, often is a variety not commonly sold on the mass market, and that there is less wastage do to the fact that the item hasn't spent as long in transit. That means I have more time to consume the food in question before it spoils and we all have the problem of food going bad before we can eat it. Reducing that saves me money.
              And you're willing to give up on fruit in the winter except what you've preserved?
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              • Fruit grows year round here so I do not have to make that choice. As I repeatedly said, if the price is close I will give the tie to locally produced in order to reward local producers and keep money circulating in the local economy.
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                • The local economy argument is one of the key components which is bull****. You could instead spend less money on non-local food, and put the money you save into the local economy in a sector that is on its own economically viable.

                  You live in Southern California, where just about anything grows because it's essentially summer year round there. Temperatures don't fluctuate that much.

                  I am completely unsurprised that someone from San Diego of all places, second perhaps only to San Francisco in urbane hipsterdom (Boulder, CO, Portland, OR, and Eugene, OR are more of the crunchy granola variety), would be into local food.

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                  • Once again, no, the old save $0.01 per apple and find a way to invest that savings just doesn't work very well as a practical matter. The amounts we're dealing with on an individual level just don't amount to very much were as it is a very easy slogan to get people to buy local (where it is convenient and relatively price competitive) is a very easy way to get people to support local producers on a mass scale. It is simply easier and more effective than trying to get 3 million people each trying to figure out how to invest $30 per year for maximum effect on the local economy.

                    Of course, you being both young and a dunce means you think you know everything and that theory does in fact work in the real world. Often times, my young and clueless friend, reality is simply much more complicated or difficult to achieve results in compared to theory. Of course, you also truly do believe that all cheese is the same or all wine is the same or any of a number of items are just commodities which are all alike but that just goes to show how, once again, reality simply isn't on your side. I'm sorry to say but there really are huge amounts of differences between items which you are pretending are identical commodities and, guess what, but the market is willing to support these items because they do feel they are different enough. Stop whining about capitalism or wishing for an idealized theoretical world and start thinking more about how you're going to survive outside of college.

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                    • re: regexcellent

                      You're still assuming that there's no ecological benefit, which is wrong.
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                      • My approach is very simple. Ignore the ****-***** claiming they know better and let the market sort it out. Then again, I'm actually a capitalist and feel consumers (given enough information) can indeed arrive at the products that suit their desires best.

                        I'm sorry that reg-ignorance is upset that consumers are not all making the choices he feels are best but then again that's part of the free market. Suck it, kid, and get over it.
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                        • Originally posted by Oncle Boris View Post
                          re: regexcellent

                          You're still assuming that there's no ecological benefit, which is wrong.
                          Indeed. His posts in this thread have constantly run up against reality though but given how he's just a student with limited life experience that is to be expected.
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                          • Eating local fruit in San Diego is like eating local corn in Iowa.
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                            • There isn't much fruit grown in SD unless you are counting avocados.
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                              • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                                Eating local fruit in San Diego is like eating local corn in Iowa.
                                True to some extent though you still get the benefit of having it last longer and getting varieties of each fruit and veggie which the large packing companies don't want to deal with. The large farmers all are under contract to export out of the state to those of you in less climatically endowed regions where as the small farmers/producers grow stuff you simply can't find at the super market and so it creates both a market opportunity for the small guys to exploit a niche the big guys are ignoring but also to offer something the market is generally not supplying. It's an all around win for lovers of the free market. Additional choice and competition is always good for the consumer.
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