Dark Knight Rises

[Aeson]

Revolvers will feel like they have more kick than autos almost all of the time, unless you're using a really big auto cartridge.

I've never shot an auto. Just shotguns, bolt action rifles, and revolvers.

[Felch]

But he didn't use lethal force breaking up an incident - it was another officer that acted stupidly

Firing a gun is using lethal force. The undercover just happened to miss.

[Al B. Sure!]

But he didn't use lethal force breaking up an incident - it was another officer that acted stupidly

[Aeson]

This isn't ever going to get old ...

[Dr Strangelove]

Meanwhile, back in Colorado:

Aurora, Colo., shooting suspect James Holmes came to the attention of the threat assessment committee at the University of Colorado but no further action was taken because he left the school more than a month before the attack that killed 12 and injured 58, sources told ABC News.

ABC News has learned that Dr. Lynne Fenton, the psychiatrist who was treating Holmes, 24, at the school, was also a key member of the university's threat assessment team. The group of experts were responsible for protecting the school from potentially violent students.

KMGH-TV, ABC News' affiliate in Denver, reported exclusively that, according to sources, by early June, Fenton had informed other members of the team about her concerns regarding Holmes.

But on June 10 -- three days after Holmes bought an assault weapon and added it to his already growing arsenal -- he suddenly told the university that he was dropping out of the neurosciences doctoral program with no explanation.

KMGH-TV reported last week that he'd purchased the weapon hours after failing a key oral exam.

On Monday, Holmes was charged with 24 counts of first-degree murder in the fatal shooting during a midnight screening of "The Dark Knight Rises."

Twelve people were killed and 58 were wounded in the worst mass shooting in U.S. history. Each death carried two separate murder charges, one for showing premeditation and one for showing extreme indifference to life. Both of the charges carry the death penalty as a possible sentence.

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Michael Carrigan, chairman of the CU board of regents, told KMGH that he did not know if Holmes had ever been discussed by the threat assessment team. "It's the first I'm hearing about this," he said in a phone interview.

A CU spokeswoman declined comment to KMGH on Fenton or any threat-team team actions, citing a gag order.

Don Elliman, the university's chancellor, said last week that "to the best of our knowledge, at this point, we did everything we think we could have done."

But experts said today that Holmes' departure should have been a red alert.

"You know, I think that's the signal that you should intensify your efforts, not walk away," said Barry Spodak, a threat assessment expert. "Under those circumstances, most well-trained threat assessment teams would have gone into action."

Stay tuned for some epic lawsuits.

[rah]

Yeah, firing warning shot in a crowd will probably never end well.

[Al B. Sure!]

China has pretty strict gun control. Maybe they should ban knives:

http://news.yahoo.com/chinese-teen-kills-eight-knife-attack-reports-102629246.html

A teenager has been arrested after killing nine people and wounding four others in a knife attack in northeast China, state media reported Thursday.

[Asher]

Can you imagine the body count if he had an AR-15?

[BlackCat]

Found this at that link Al gave - you yanks are really weird

[Al B. Sure!]

Found this at that link Al gave - you yanks are really weird

Emergency room visits are insanely over-priced for the quality of healthcare you typically receive if you don't have gunshot wounds or coming from a car crash.

I got in a fist-fight with an employee at one job and I was bleeding heavily from my head but felt fine. The police and paramedics that arrived thought I'd better get to the hospital. I didn't have to worry about an ambulance since the cops drove me over in their squad car. I sat a while (and saw a gunshot victim brought in which was straight out of a medical drama), had my blood pressure taken, and then a doctor applied liquid bandage to my gash and asked if I felt dizzy or had a headache.

They billed both workman's comp (it was a workplace injury) and my insurance for $4000 for the visit (something they obviously shouldn't have done!). What in the ****? The doctor basically just gave me a band-aid!

This was Temple University Hospital, so my doctor might have been a student, for all I know.

[MrFun]

And you still don't think our country needs healthcare reform, Alby?

[regexcellent]

And you still don't think our country needs healthcare reform, Alby?

What he said is not evidence in favor of socialized health care.

[Al B. Sure!]

And you still don't think our country needs healthcare reform, Alby?

I had a discussion recently with someone who was worried about 66 schools closing in Philly in an attempt to restructure the ailing school district (44% drop out rate, terrible test scores, etc.). Her only instinct was to demand more money be pumped into the $2 billion school district already $100+ million in the red. Any attempts to explain that money is clearly not working and that streamlining reform, even if it has hiccups, probably couldn't do any worse were met with 'But the children!'

It was impossible to get through to her or make her think there's something else that can be done besides tax and pump money into it.

You remind me of her.

[kentonio]

You remind me of a kid who gets their lunch money stolen every day at recess and still insists that bullying builds character.

[Elok]

You remind me of the babe. What babe? The babe with the power. What power? The babe with the power of hoodoo. Hoodoo? You do. Do what? You remind me of the babe.