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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    It's a harder decision, especially if you don't have kids and wanted to have kids together. I wouldn't like it, (remember it would mean for me, since I would be waiting until marriage!), but we'd probably look at adoption. If I can't have my own then I'd raise some with her.
    I still see no decision. I wouldn't over risk my wife's life to satisfy a selfish need to father a child. (granted all childbirth are not survived)
    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
      Why?

      So what you're saying is I should take one for the team and get a vasectomy, eh?

      Personally speaking, I think this is unnecessary- but the human gene pool thinks you should err on the side of caution.
      The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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      • But step up here and answer the question. If you had to choose over your wife and an unborn baby, what would you choose? You seem to be saying that you'd do nothing and let god make the decision.
        I'd do whatever it was in my power to do, in terms of getting her proper medical care, etc. If either my child were to die or my wife died. Then so be it. I did what I could to keep them both.

        I cannot in good conscience choose my wife over my child, or my child over my wife.

        For me, I'd choose my wife every time. If you think that makes me evil, I guess I'm evil. And I can live with that.
        Well, fair enough.
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        • Originally posted by rah View Post

          For me, I'd choose my wife every time. If you think that makes me evil, I guess I'm evil. And I can live with that.
          Ditto... It's personal as I would choose the wife and mother I know over some potential person .....Like rah I assume there can be situations where you COULD be forced to choose.


          Ben your answer of choosing both is either a non answer or a statement that you are essentially choosing the child as you would continue the pregnancy as long as possible
          You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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          • Ben

            This is all currently theoretical for you. You balance a theoretical wife against a potential child while instead I turn slightly and see a very real wife sleeping beside me. Perhaps you could follow your belief system here but if you have a wife you truly love,it would be incredibly difficult to decide to allow extreme risks to be taken. She might be scared and worried and seeking support

            The reality is that it won't be your decision anyway... Legally it would be hers unless she was incapable.
            You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
              I'd do whatever it was in my power to do, in terms of getting her proper medical care, etc. If either my child were to die or my wife died. Then so be it. I did what I could to keep them both.

              I cannot in good conscience choose my wife over my child, or my child over my wife.
              Then you would be taking the risk of both of them dying.
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post

                As far as I'm aware there's only one case where that would occur, and that would be an ectopic pregnancy, in which case the answer would be to save the life of my wife since we couldn't save the baby.

                Except, of course, that some ectopic pregnancies result in successful birth .

                So it's not a 100% certainty, is it? At which percentage does your position switch?
                The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                • I think any answer he gives to that is meaningless without any experience with having a life partner. Hopefully if would have a large impact on his opinions in this area. If he's lucky enough to ever experience it, of course. Let's hope his current attitudes aren't too large of a barricade.
                  It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                  RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                  • Please don't mention while you're dating that her health/life wouldn't be your primary consideration when reproductive issues are involved.
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                    • He will NEVER be able to have a real date.

                      He
                      1. is fugly,
                      2. has the worst set of morals a human being can imagine
                      3. you can't have any meaningful discussion with him since he is incapable of moving one inch from his personal standpoint (heavily influenced by number 2).

                      He basically moved is idiotic arse out of the gene pool...
                      "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                      • There's always that really slim chance that be could become wealthy.
                        That would change the equation drastically.
                        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                        RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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