Seriously, GOP? Really?

[DinoDoc]

I'm sorry but a candidate who knows a crazy person is not at all on the same level as a candidate who is actually crazy.

How about a candidate who considered the crazy preacher a spiritual mentor? Though that gong was rung long ago and is of little relevance now. I'm a little curious why Zev brought it up.

[DinoDoc]

For me, he's good because he's willing to talk about the harder issues facing us and is forward-thinking and coherent. It makes me hopeful that we can get beyond the short-term party interests with which Washington is infested.

It's his narcissism and erratic behavior combined with his shallow thinking that scares me in a match up with Obama as he has a tendency to make things all about him and lash out in a hostile and petulant manner to perceived slights against him.

[Imran Siddiqui]

OMG! Are we all crazy for knowing Zevico?!!!

Evidently.

[dannubis]

No one is THAT black.

Corrected...

[Zevico]

I'm sorry but a candidate who knows a crazy person is not at all on the same level as a candidate who is actually crazy.

One candidate, Obama, enabled a bigot by attending that bigot's church for decades, thereby giving the false impression to onlookers that Wright's teachings are legitimate and worthy of respect.

If Gingrich is the candidate you're comparing him to, then Gingrich is not on the record as a racist and nor, so far as I am aware, did he spend decades enabling a racist. Ditto Santorum. If Ron Paul is the candidate you're referring to, then yes, he and Obama are probably moral equivalents given Paul's habit of enabling racists and conspiracy theorists.

There is simply no evidence that either Obama or Gingrich are "crazy" by any standard. Possibly, you're using colloquial language to express yourself but accuracy is important when discussing them in writing and thinking about them.

[molly bloom]

I'm afraid our nation is rapidly approaching the point where satire will simply no longer be possible.

It reached that point when Ford pardoned Nixon.

[molly bloom]

Dude, this is ridiculous. Republicans hate Obama and would vote for a goldfish over him.

Not if it were a Mormon goldfish.

[Zevico]

How about a candidate who considered the crazy preacher a spiritual mentor? Though that gong was rung long ago and is of little relevance now. I'm a little curious why Zev brought it up.

Things that happen a long time ago can still be relevant. This is not about Obama the man--it is about the polity he is a part of.

To give an example: the NYT has an article about the American Bar Association's findings that some of the Administration's candidates for the federal judiciary are unqualified. The defence offered by the Administration appears to be that minority lawyers are less likely to have trial experience, so requiring judges to have trial experience is discriminatory. By this logic, why appoint minority lawyers to judgeships at all? Simply appoint a person belonging to a minority to the bench. After all, minorities may be less likely to be lawyers. And if they are, won't that requirement have a "disproportionate impact" on their ability to become judges? Surely this injustice must be corrected!
(see: https://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/23/u...gewanted=print)

Or, take the example of Justice Sotamayor. Justice Sotamayor was appointed to the Supreme Court after holding that tests for firemen were too complex for minorities (persons who happen to have dark skin, specifically). She held that tests for firemen had to have less writing so that statistical racial(ist) justice could be achieved. Elsewhere she opined that she was better placed to make decisions than white judges because she was a "wise Latina."


My point is that the logic of some parts of American society is explicitly racist, and that racism is not exclusive to groups such as the KKK. And that is not considered radical or wrong or unexpected. It is normal. It is well-intentioned racism. It's "giving back" after all of the years of oppression. The racism of the past justifies the "kind-hearted" racism of the present.

After all, if the statistics get out of kilter--heaven forfend--racial justice will soon correct matters. If minorities statistically outnumber whites in a given area, then surely it will follow that whites, too, will be entitled to "racial justice", so that they will not suffer from a "disproportionate impact."

"Racial justice" is nothing more than a racial patronage system with an attractive name. Why stand for racial quotas when you can support affirmative action? I mean, how can anyone oppose affirmative action? If you did, you'd support "negative passivity." And who would want to do that?

Racial justice divides society on racial lines and encourages tribalism. It paves the road to a future American Lebanon. Racial justice presupposes and acts on the existence of different races, when the evil of racism is precisely that.

In fact Lebanon is a great comparison. Lebanon divides its Parliament along religious lines. Christians get 50% of the seats. Sunnis, Shias, Druze and Alawties get the other 50%. A Christian must be President. Is that not "religiously" just? True, there are the occasional civil wars but one must break some eggs to make omelettes. Now consider that several American federal court rulings have explicitly held that certain congressional districts must be divided so as to create a sufficient degree of black representation. Is that not the same logic?

[Hauldren Collider]

Zevico is, as usual, totally correct.

We've replaced racism against blacks with racism against whites. Of course, it doesn't really have a huge impact on white people, but it's still racism, and it's completely retarded.

The real damage is the fact that we place incompetent people in positions of power, because of cultural guilt.

[Dr Strangelove]

Zevico is, as usual, totally correct.

We've replaced racism against blacks with racism against whites. Of course, it doesn't really have a huge impact on white people, but it's still racism, and it's completely retarded.

Really? In what way have you experienced racial discrimination?

We used to have a guy around here who was fond of saying: "The Southern race is the most discriminated against in history."

He was the Grand Wizard of the Mississippi KKK.

[regexcellent]

Really? In what way have you experienced racial discrimination?

We used to have a guy around here who was fond of saying: "The Southern race is the most discriminated against in history."

He was the Grand Wizard of the Mississippi KKK.

Ever wondered why it's so much easier for a black guy to get into Yale?

[DaShi]

Zevico is, as usual, totally correct.

We've replaced racism against blacks with racism against whites. Of course, it doesn't really have a huge impact on white people, but it's still racism, and it's completely retarded.

The real damage is the fact that we place incompetent people in positions of power, because of cultural guilt.

Who?

Zevico actually offered no actual examples of reverse racism. For one, he is completely wrong about the "wise Latina" remark. I'm surprised that he brought it up because it was thoroughly debunked at the time. Perhaps he doesn't read very much. As for Sotomayor's ruling, she ruled in favor of federal law, which the fire department had violated. Again it's strange that Zevico, who claims to be a lawyer, is unaware of this when citing the case. That's about his only example. The rest is unsubstantiated ranting. So please, tell us how Zevico is "totally correct."

[DaShi]

Ever wondered why it's so much easier for a black guy to get into Yale?

How much easier is it?

[DaShi]

Anyway, talk of the GOP candidates is moot at this point. Obama already clinched his victory on Thursday night. There's no one among the remaining republican candidates that can compete with that.

[Hauldren Collider]

Really? In what way have you experienced racial discrimination?

We used to have a guy around here who was fond of saying: "The Southern race is the most discriminated against in history."

He was the Grand Wizard of the Mississippi KKK.

I have never experienced racial discrimination, hence my saying it doesn't really have a huge impact on white people. The people it has the most impact on are people who are applying to top level colleges and people who want things like federal judgeships. That's not exactly Jim Crow. Read my post, moron: The real damage is the fact that we place incompetent people in positions of power, because of cultural guilt.