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The reason we want them dead is they're working on nuclear weapons. It's difficult to destroy nukes once they're made, so you have to stop them before they're made by targeting the designers responsible. In other words, we want to murder Iranians for a very good reason.John Brown did nothing wrong.
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Rational, effective, strategic . . . take your pick, those are all excellent words. Also, these folks aren't innocent, they're weapons designers. We killed Julius and Ethel for giving Russians the Bomb, and we'll kill Iranians too. America is psycho, and the sooner people accept that and move on, the sooner we can all enter a new golden age of peace and prosperity.Originally posted by onodera View Postkilling innocent people who have no means to protect themselves and whose only fault was getting born in the wrong country is... I don't know the right word.John Brown did nothing wrong.
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Why should anyone be disallowed to work on nuclear weapons? Kill those that want to use them and who have ordered to create them in the first place.Originally posted by Felch View PostThe reason we want them dead is they're working on nuclear weapons. It's difficult to destroy nukes once they're made, so you have to stop them before they're made by targeting the designers responsible. In other words, we want to murder Iranians for a very good reason.Graffiti in a public toilet
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They're developing nuclear power, and Newt Gingrich wants to kill them based on speculation about what Iranian leaders could possibly do in the future with Iran's nuclear program.Originally posted by Felch View PostThe reason we want them dead is they're working on nuclear weapons. It's difficult to destroy nukes once they're made, so you have to stop them before they're made by targeting the designers responsible. In other words, we want to murder Iranians for a very good reason.
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They're not just working on nuclear weapons. They're working on nuclear weapons that will disrupt American foreign policy. The world is a ****ing jungle, and America obeys the laws of the jungle. I'm down with killing the leadership too, but they're usually better protected.Originally posted by onodera View PostWhy should anyone be disallowed to work on nuclear weapons? Kill those that want to use them and who have ordered to create them in the first place.John Brown did nothing wrong.
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By that logic, it's sane and legal for Iranian intelligence to kill american workers that produce warships, planes, munition etc. because USA are secretly planning an invasion of IranOriginally posted by Felch View PostThe reason we want them dead is they're working on nuclear weapons. It's difficult to destroy nukes once they're made, so you have to stop them before they're made by targeting the designers responsible. In other words, we want to murder Iranians for a very good reason.
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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If it isn't legal it's usually called terrorism.Originally posted by DaShi View PostWho said anything about legal?With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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No, by that logic killing American workers would be quite foolish. For one thing, it takes a lot of workers to produce each craft, and most of the workers are relatively easy to replace. It's a poor return on their effort. Killing the engineers who produce new designs isn't much better, since it takes us about twenty years to get a design built and we seem to change the specs about five times for each design.
For another thing, I don't believe we're actually dumb enough to invade Iran under this administration. Probably not even under W's. I don't think Iran is crazy enough to actually use nukes either, but nuclear-armed Iran would be even more of a headache to deal with and paranoid Israel has us by the balls. I also don't know that even Gingrich is silly enough to get involved in "covert" assassinations after showing his hand on TV like that. Really, there's a lot of implausible flying around here.
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They will not be a threat to the US, anyway. Disruption of a foreign policy doesn't justify murder.Originally posted by Felch View PostThey're not just working on nuclear weapons. They're working on nuclear weapons that will disrupt American foreign policy. The world is a ****ing jungle, and America obeys the laws of the jungle. I'm down with killing the leadership too, but they're usually better protected.Graffiti in a public toilet
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Didn't claim it would be sane, just that if usa can kill iranian workers, then iran can kill us ditto. The comparison is kind of fair since building nukes is something most countries can do if they want. You don't need superscientists, just a bunch of pretty ordinary scientists and specialist workers wich i'm pretty sure that Iran can massproduce.Originally posted by Elok View PostNo, by that logic killing American workers would be quite foolish. For one thing, it takes a lot of workers to produce each craft, and most of the workers are relatively easy to replace. It's a poor return on their effort. Killing the engineers who produce new designs isn't much better, since it takes us about twenty years to get a design built and we seem to change the specs about five times for each design.
Quite agree, both on the low risk and that it would complicate things. Though, Im' pretty sure that a us killing spree on iranian techs will have the opposite effect - that'll just make them more determined on getting a bomb.For another thing, I don't believe we're actually dumb enough to invade Iran under this administration. Probably not even under W's. I don't think Iran is crazy enough to actually use nukes either, but nuclear-armed Iran would be even more of a headache to deal with and paranoid Israel has us by the balls. I also don't know that even Gingrich is silly enough to get involved in "covert" assassinations after showing his hand on TV like that. Really, there's a lot of implausible flying around here.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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No, it's not. Like Kitchum, you're misunderstanding what terrorism is.Originally posted by BlackCat View PostIf it isn't legal it's usually called terrorism.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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1. Israel's not paranoid. Iran's called for them to be wiped off the map--you cannot criticize Israel for this.Originally posted by Elok View PostNo, by that logic killing American workers would be quite foolish. For one thing, it takes a lot of workers to produce each craft, and most of the workers are relatively easy to replace. It's a poor return on their effort. Killing the engineers who produce new designs isn't much better, since it takes us about twenty years to get a design built and we seem to change the specs about five times for each design.
For another thing, I don't believe we're actually dumb enough to invade Iran under this administration. Probably not even under W's. I don't think Iran is crazy enough to actually use nukes either, but nuclear-armed Iran would be even more of a headache to deal with and paranoid Israel has us by the balls. I also don't know that even Gingrich is silly enough to get involved in "covert" assassinations after showing his hand on TV like that. Really, there's a lot of implausible flying around here.
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2. I don't agree that Iran isn't stupid enough to use nukes.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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