US Presidential candidate endorses terrorism

[Kitschum]

Yes, because Sunnis and Shiites usually get along swimmingly.

In fact, yes. Before your country got involved, Iran had never seen such terrorism despite being the home to both Sunni and Shia Muslims. I defy you to prove otherwise.

[DaShi]

Terrorism is meant to provoke fear in the civilian population. Gingrich is promoting strategic assassinations to undermine Iran's nuclear capabilities. That is not terrorism. Terrorism would be to actually kill random (please look up the definition of random because you've yet to use in right in this thread) Iranians in order to cow them into abandoning their nuclear policy.

It's like arguing with a child or HC.

[DaShi]

In fact, yes. Before your country got involved, Iran had never seen such terrorism despite being the home to both Sunni and Shia Muslims. I defy you to prove otherwise.

Why don't you first prove US involvement?

[Kitschum]

Terrorism is meant to provoke fear in the civilian population. Gingrich is promoting strategic assassinations to undermine Iran's nuclear capabilities. That is not terrorism. Terrorism would be to actually kill random (please look up the definition of random because you've yet to use in right in this thread) Iranians in order to cow them into abandoning their nuclear policy.

It's like arguing with a child or HC.

Terrorism:

1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

Yeah, stop pretending. Start being responsible. Your government murders foreign civilians in order to influence their policies. Your government is trying to inflict a state of fear and submission to your own country's arbitrarily chosen standard.

Yeah right on the arbitrariness, but you know. Different standards for friends (India, Israel) and enemies (North Korea, Iran)...

[Kitschum]

Why don't you first prove US involvement?

Lol, first, you prove Iran has a nuclear weapons program.

[DaShi]

Gingrich's statements still do not fit the definition of terrorism. And if you're so against assassination, why weren't you complaining about the Iranians trying to assassinate a Saudi ambassador on US soil? Different standards.

[DaShi]

Lol, first, you prove Iran has a nuclear weapons program.

As I thought, you're just spewing BS. ****, you're retarded.

[DaShi]

Iranian terrorism.

http://terrorism.about.com/od/iran/p/Iran2.htm

[DaShi]

Damn those Americans!

Assassinations in Qajar era
Shah Mohammad Khan Qajar was assassinated in 1797 in the city of Shusha, the capital of Karabakh khanate, after about 16 years in power. While Mohammad Khan Qajar's assassination might be called part of the ancient practice of palace intrigue, or motivated simply fear and/or revenge, the May 1, 1896 killing of Shah Nasser al-Din Shah Qajar[3] conforms more closely to the modern phenomenon of terrorism as a tool of a political movement. Nasser al-Din was shot and killed by Mirza Reza Kermani, a follower of Jamal al-Din al-Afghani, an early promoter of modern Pan-Islamism. Al-Afghani is reported to have said of the assassination, “surely it was a good deed to kill this bloodthirsty tyrant.” [4]

[DaShi]

America, trying to force its version of Islam on Iran.

Fadayan-e Islam was an Islamic fundamentalist secret society founded in Iran in 1946, by "a charismatic theology student" named Navab Safavi. Safavi sought to "purify Islam" in Iran by ridding it of `corrupting individuals` by means of carefully planned assassinations of certain leading intellectual and political figures.[5] Some of its targets in the late 1940s and early 1950s included secularist author Ahmad Kasravi, former premier Abdul-Hussein Hazhir, Education and Culture Minister Ahmad Zangeneh, and Prime Minister Haj-Ali Razmara. Such was the groups influence and success that it was able to use its powerful clerical supporters to free its assassins from punishment. In the mid-1950s, after the consolidation of the power of the Shah, the group was suppressed and Safavi executed. The group survived as supporters of the Ayatollah Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution of Iran.

[DaShi]

Were they for them before they were against them?

Attacks by Mujahedin-e-Khalq
Main article: People's Mujahedin of Iran
The People's Mujahedin of Iran (also called Mujahedin-e-Khalq, MeK or MKO) is an anti-clerical Islamist guerilla organization regarded by the Iranian, the U.S. governments, and others as a terrorist organization.
On 28 June 1981, bombs set by the MeK killed 70 high-ranking officials of the Islamic Republic Party, including Chief Justice Mohammad Beheshti who was the second highest official after Ayatollah Khomeini at the time. Two years after the Islamic Revolution of Iran, the MeK detonated bombs at the headquarters of the now-dissolved Islamic Republic Party. Two months later, the MeK detonated another bomb in the office of the president, killing President Rajai and Premier Mohammad Javad Bahonar. Their attacks did not succeed in overthrowing the Islamic Republic of Iran government.
In recent years, attacks by or thought to have been by the Mujahedin-e-Khalq include:
[edit]1998 Asadollah Lajevardi assassination
Two members of Mujahedin-e-Khalq assassinated Asadollah Lajevardi, a prosecutor and director of Evin Prison, along with his brother and a bystander on 23 August 1998.[6]
[edit]1999 Assassination of Ali Sayad Shirazi
On April 10, 1999, 6:45 local time Brigadier-General Ali Sayad Shirazi, deputy chief of staff of the regular army of the Islamic Republic and a military adviser to the Supreme Leader of Iran, was assassinated outside his house as he left for work. The People's Mujahedin of Iran claimed responsibility for the assassination of Sayyad Shirazi, giving as their reason revenge for his role as commander of Iranian ground forces in Operation Mersad against the MeK.

[DaShi]

My god, US terrorism in Iran goes all the way to the top!

State terrorism and the 1998 "Chain murders"
Main articles: Allegations of Iranian state terrorism and Chain murders of Iran
Since the founding of the Islamic Republic, dissidents in Iran have complained of unsolved murders and disappearances of intellectuals and political activists who had been critical of the Islamic Republic system in some way. In 1998 these complaints came to a head with the killing of three dissident writers, a political leader (Dariush Forouhar) and his wife in the span of two months, in what became known as the Chain murders or 1998 Serial Murders of Iran.[9][10][11] of Iranians who had been critical of the Islamic Republic system in some way.[12] Altogether more than 80 writers, translators, poets, political activists, and ordinary citizens are thought to have been killed over the course of several years.[9] The deputy security official of the Ministry of Information, Saeed Emami was arrested for the killings and later committed suicide, although many believe higher level officials were responsible for the killings. According to Iranterror.com, "it was widely assumed that [Emami] was murdered in order to prevent the leak of sensitive information about Ministry of Intelligence and Security operations, which would have compromised the entire leadership of the Islamic Republic."[13]

[Kitschum]

Gingrich's statements still do not fit the definition of terrorism. And if you're so against assassination, why weren't you complaining about the Iranians trying to assassinate a Saudi ambassador on US soil? Different standards.

You mean why am I not complaining about an American used car salesman (albeit of Iranian origin) being caught in a DEA sting to supposedly hire a Mexican druggie to assassinate a Saudi ambassador?

Iran have not acknowledged that anyone of the involved are even Iranian citizens or Quds Force, and the US as always has not proven otherwise. Your country hasn't shown a great deal of willingness to work with Iranian authorities at all on this, which is about to be expected. But the story is already out there, and you all bought it, so nobody cares anymore.

[DaShi]

Sunni's vs Shiites? Has America turned brother against brother?

1994 Mashhad bombing
On June 20, 1994 explosion of a bomb in a prayer hall of Imam Reza shrine in Mashhad[14] that killed at least 25 people.[15] The Iranian government officially blamed Mujahedin-e-Khalq for the incident to avoid sectarian conflict between Shias and Sunnis.[16] However, the Pakistani daily The News International reported on March 27, 1995, "Pakistani investigators have identified a 24-year-old religious fanatic Abdul Shakoor residing in Lyari in Karachi, as an important Pakistani associate of Ramzi Yousef. Abdul Shakoor had intimate contacts with Ramzi Ahmed Yousef and was responsible for the June 20, 1994, massive bomb explosion at the shrine Imam Ali Reza in Mashhad."[17] According to the Jamestown Foundation Terrorism Monitor, "a report produced by the [Iranian] Ministry of Intelligence in October 1994 identified the culprits as operatives of Pakistan's "Lashkare Jhangvi"-the sister organization of Sepahe Sahaba."

[DaShi]

Sunni's vs Shiites? Has America turned brother against brother?

1994 Mashhad bombing
On June 20, 1994 explosion of a bomb in a prayer hall of Imam Reza shrine in Mashhad[14] that killed at least 25 people.[15] The Iranian government officially blamed Mujahedin-e-Khalq for the incident to avoid sectarian conflict between Shias and Sunnis.[16] However, the Pakistani daily The News International reported on March 27, 1995, "Pakistani investigators have identified a 24-year-old religious fanatic Abdul Shakoor residing in Lyari in Karachi, as an important Pakistani associate of Ramzi Yousef. Abdul Shakoor had intimate contacts with Ramzi Ahmed Yousef and was responsible for the June 20, 1994, massive bomb explosion at the shrine Imam Ali Reza in Mashhad."[17] According to the Jamestown Foundation Terrorism Monitor, "a report produced by the [Iranian] Ministry of Intelligence in October 1994 identified the culprits as operatives of Pakistan's "Lashkare Jhangvi"-the sister organization of Sepahe Sahaba."