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  • Really? So Ted Kaczynski, free of any co-conspirators, is not a terrorist because of that?

    edit: spelling
    Last edited by The Mad Monk; November 19, 2011, 20:14.
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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    • No, he had an agenda. The Kennedy killer might also have had that but it died with him.
      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

      Steven Weinberg

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      • So it's the presence of an aganda that decides whether it is a "simple" crime, or terrorism? No other factors?
        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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        • Yeah, having an agenda besides killing as many people as possible for fun, could easily be one definition of terrorism.
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

          Steven Weinberg

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          • Does it matter what the agenda is?

            What of expected results?

            "Killing as many people as possible". Is this a requirement for terrorism?
            No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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            • No - one could be enough if it has the wanted effect.
              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

              Steven Weinberg

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              • Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                HC, as stated before, by your definition it would make perfectly sense, being reasonable and defendable if iranians started to kill US military targets and targets of strategic significance. I'm pretty sure that you would be quite outraged by such actions and call it terrorism.


                basically it's OK for Iranians/all other enemies of US to kill US engineers, politicians, etc... what's fair is fair...
                Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                • I suppose you could say it's okay for them to try...
                  No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                  • but 9-11 was a swipe which was a bit too broad eh? I bet they got some engineers and especially financiers involved with US operations in middle east...

                    or only "one at a time" targets are allowed under "not terrorism" umbrella... and if they were succesfull... especially if they whacked Obama, some Republicans would even be grateful... well... they have even more in common with Iranians than previously apparent
                    Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                    GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                    • Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                      BS. Executions, warfare (ex Wellington butchering enemy soldiers) and killings are good examples of of terrorism. It's you that has a too narrow definition of the word.
                      Obviously, you want it to be pointless to talk to you. The sad part is that you think you are being clever posting stuff like that.
                      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                      "Capitalism ho!"

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                      • Originally posted by DaShi View Post
                        Obviously, you want it to be pointless to talk to you. The sad part is that you think you are being clever posting stuff like that.
                        Quite the opposite. I want to talk with people with a brain and abilities to think - unfortunatedly that seems to weed you out.
                        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                        Steven Weinberg

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                        • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                          They're developing nuclear power,
                          Are you stupid? Even the UN says the actions they are taking are inconsistent with a civilian nuclear program.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                            Quite the opposite. I want to talk with people with a brain and abilities to think - unfortunatedly that seems to weed you out.
                            Then why don't you post smart things? Saying terrorism=all murders is not smart. It's asinine and childish. In general, it betrays that you really don't know what you are talking about.
                            “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                            "Capitalism ho!"

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                            • Originally posted by DaShi View Post
                              Then why don't you post smart things? Saying terrorism=all murders is not smart. It's asinine and childish. In general, it betrays that you really don't know what you are talking about.
                              Well, since I haven't said such I'm probably still smart
                              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                              Steven Weinberg

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                              • Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                                Disagree a bit. What DaShi et al. tries to do is to make a difference between "rape" and "involuntary intercourse". When beduins kills americans (civil or not) it's terrorism, when good ole americans kills beduins, it's preemptive strikes.
                                No, I've been quite specific in what acts constitute terrorism and what don't. The fact that you can't read doesn't change this.
                                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                                "Capitalism ho!"

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