Greatest Sect of Christianity

[Kidlicious]

It's not just the denominations that you mentioned who believe in their doctrines that you can think that the Holy Spirit will reveal something to you that contradicts the Bible. I know that methodist and anglicans don't. Now it's true that conservatives are going to tend to believe that you are anti-christian for it.

To clear up potential misunderstang I just think you're wrong. The church I atend isn't very conservative but liberals stay out becauae it's baptist by name. In a liberal church people will say just about anything including the minister. Once someone tried to convince me that the gospels weren't true. He's a nice kid, and not the anti-christ.

[Jon Miller]

I didn't think there were very many denominations which believed that Revealed Truth could contradict the Bible...

In fact, I don't know any?

One of the tests to see if you are listening to God or not, which is described in the Bible, is if it contradicts scripture....

JM

[Kidlicious]

Yeah, that's what I thought, but maybe some Lutherans and Quakers, branches I mean.

[molly bloom]

It was a joke Molly.

Uh huh. I slipped in 'praxis' and you didn't even notice.

However, I stand by what I said- you've gone from believing in the millenarian creed of one Jew to believing in the chiliastic creed of another. It's a journey I've observed in others, who've usually ended up as keen supporters of the more bug-eyed fringes of the main conservative grouping.

[molly bloom]

In Kid's case we just need to wait a year until he decides that his version of Zoroastrianism (or whatever) is 100% correct

"In Eternity [insert non sequitur here], therefore Ahura Mazda [insert anything you want here]"

I'm waiting for him to accuse himself of bourgeois deviationism and a drifiting tendency towards Calvinist formalism in his approach to the interpretation of the Book of Malachi, and then self-schism to form a splinter sect. The only thing more amusing than watching atheists argue with Christianistas is watching Christianistas argue with each other (with or without anathemas, weapons, wars...)

[molly bloom]

I'm not going to brag about my knowledge.

Doesn't this presuppose that realistically you could ?

I found the two Mormon missionaries who cornered me a couple of months ago more convincing than you, and I find their sect more absurd than most (they were cute in an Abercrombie & Fitch kind of way- they inspired lustful thoughts in me, which I'm sure wasn't their intention. I was very polite to them though...)

[molly bloom]

I don't understand what it is about converts that makes them such douchebags. It seems as though the Inquisitors are always composed of at least half converts, even though converts are only 10-20% of the religion

Don't forget Torquemada and Ferdinand both had Jewish ancestry.

Kidicious's prior involvement in the apocalyptic belief system of one Jew has served him well for his apprenticeship in the new faith structure- which has its own 'Grundrisse' and 'Kapital', its own Communist Manifesto (The Sermon on the Mount is at least as radical as any Socialist document of the 19th Century) and its own guardians of public morality.

I quite liked the 'Not The Nine O'Clock News' sketch on the trendy student commies:

[Imran Siddiqui]

I didn't think there were very many denominations which believed that Revealed Truth could contradict the Bible...

In fact, I don't know any?

None do - though I guess some kind of move around Bible verses a bit, such as when people started to agree that God was against slavery. There is quite a bit of Scripture that seems to be ok with slavery (slaves obey your masters and all that). When God's revealed truth that slavery was against God's will began to be accepted, there was a greater focus on parts of Scripture that discussed the equality of all believers.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Oh, while on the subject, Happy Reformation Day!!

[Jon Miller]

I have read the same Bible they did (KJV), and I can see how holding slaves wasn't completely condemned.

But it seems amazing to me that they could act how they did to enslave and dehumanize a race for hundreds of years. Or to act to their slaves how they did.

Of course, I look at those around me, and myself, and realize how hypocritical we can act.

JM
(The same verses where the NT 'OKs' slavery is where it tells slaves that it is better to be free and that they should get free if they can.... )

[Uncle Sparky]

Oh, while on the subject, Happy Reformation Day!!

And Happy Jesuswe'en!

Happy Jesus we'en!

CALGARY — Tiny ghosts and goblins hoping for sugary snacks may find something odd in their loot bags this Halloween: a bible.


A Calgary pastor is promoting Jesus Ween, a faith-based alternative to the traditional holiday fare of candy and spooky garb.


Instead of chocolate bars and gummy bears, he's asking people to shun demonic costumes and instead dole out pocket-sized bibles or other "Christian gifts."


The idea has caught on in communities across North America, according to Jesus Ween creator Paul Ade. He's hoping it will bring a new perspective to an otherwise pagan festival, he said.


"I do not associate myself with ghosts, demons, Satan and witches. These are things I want to get rid of," he said.


"If it's OK for a child to know about demons, it should also be OK for a child to know about Jesus."


Jesus Ween has attracted international attention, with media reports circulating as far away as Britain.


The Calgary man's efforts to reinvent Halloween even prompted parody south of the border, with recent gags from U.S. pop culture satirist Stephen Colbert and late-night television host Jimmy Kimmel...


http://www.calgaryherald.com/

[Imran Siddiqui]

Not sure I agree with you on the NT verses about slavery saying it is better to get free. I don't recall that at all.

[Jon Miller]

Directly in the verse which slaveholders might use to defend slavery:

17 Only, as the Lord has assigned to each one, as God has called each, in this manner let him walk. And so I direct in all the churches. 18 Was any man called when he was already circumcised? He is not to become uncircumcised. Has anyone been called in uncircumcision? He is not to be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God. 20 Each man must remain in that condition in which he was called. 21 Were you called while a slave? Do not worry about it; but if you are able also to become free, rather do that. 22 For he who was called in the Lord while a slave, is the Lord's freedman; likewise he who was called while free, is Christ's slave. 23 You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of men. 24 Brethren, each one is to remain with God in that condition in which he was called.

[Uncle Sparky]

Slavery was part of society at the time the NT was created and an accepted part of life. Therefore the NT writers had no problem with it.

The best on-line source -
http://www.biblestudytools.com/dicti...e-slavery.html

[Af Ra Kam]

Christians are Cretins, which means IDIOT and STUPID. Get out your own dictionary and look it up!

Origin: 1770-80; < French; Franco-Provencal creitin, crestin human being, literally, Christian (hence one who is human despite deformities)

To be clear, I don't have anything against those values ascribed to Jesus whether he is real or fictitious. But I know how the rulers of the world like to say black is white and white is black like the masonic checkerboard floors. Is it possible they are trying to sell their god clothed in something false but they can't hide it completely?