Obama and Cain?

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben doesn't ever seem to notice that every admission of his correctness is incredibly backhanded, and universally qualified with the statement that he's only correct by accident.

As a historian, when you look at someone's enemies and even they admit that he is correct, you take that statement as very reliable.

[Lorizael]

As a historian, when you look at someone's enemies and even they admit that he is correct, you take that statement as very reliable.

[MRT144]

It makes him not a Christian, which is the point.

You're not a christian.

[Elok]

I'm usually right which is why Poly attacks me so fiercely.

Well, that and the total, shameless, and unrelenting lack of intellectual integrity.

[Elok]

Yeah and we all know people voted for JFK just because he was Catholic. Right?

That wasn't the point. People welcomed the election of JFK because it proved that it was possible for an Irish Catholic to win the presidency. That, unlike most Irish Catholics in this country, he was the fabulously wealthy son of a fabulously wealthy man did not seem to matter in the slightest.

[Dinner]

I doubt Cain could get more than 25% of the national vote but it would be hilarious to run him just so there would be two black candidates on the ballot because you could watch the heads of the bigots explode right before your eyes.

Not that it matters since Romney will be the Republican nominee but with luck you'll have enough evangelicals hating the Mormon thing that they'll run their own third party candidate insuring Obama's victory. You know it is coming.

[Archbob]

I doubt Cain could get more than 25% of the national vote but it would be hilarious to run him just so there would be two black candidates on the ballot because you could watch the heads of the bigots explode right before your eyes.

Not that it matters since Romney will be the Republican nominee but with luck you'll have enough evangelicals hating the Mormon thing that they'll run their own third party candidate insuring Obama's victory. You know it is coming.

Wouldn't jump the gun there. Romney is the most likely candidate but he's always vulnerable to a truly conservative candidate.

[Ben Kenobi]

You're not a christian.

Fine. Tell us what makes a Christian.

[Ben Kenobi]

That wasn't the point. People welcomed the election of JFK because it proved that it was possible for an Irish Catholic to win the presidency.

According to whom? You?

Kennedy disavowed his religion in order to run.

That, unlike most Irish Catholics in this country, he was the fabulously wealthy son of a fabulously wealthy man did not seem to matter in the slightest.

But his religion did matter, as a negative. This is why he gave the statements that he did saying that he would put his Catholicism in the closet. His words, not mine.

[Ben Kenobi]

Well, that and the total, shameless, and unrelenting lack of intellectual integrity.

Apparently advocating an unpopular position on apolyton constitutes 'dishonesty'.

Difference between me and you, elok, is that I don't attack you when I am discussing things with you. You seem to have the unrelenting desire to stick your nose out and say, hey guys, we aren't all like this.

What you should be asking is why I don't return the same to you. There's a very specific reason for this, maybe you can figure it out.

[Egbert]

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Refer to gribbler's remark in Post #72 below

[giblets]

Ben does deserve credit for not stooping to personal insults and name calling.

No, he only threatens to physically assault other posters. He truly is a better man.

[Egbert]

No, he only threatens to physically assault other posters. He truly is a better man.

Sorry, good point. I forgot about his invitations to fistfights at the church and so forth.

I take back my remark defending Ben.

[Ben Kenobi]

No, he only threatens to physically assault other posters. He truly is a better man.

I stand up for my friends.

I'm sorry that Gribbler can't appreciate that, but that's ok because I'm not gribbler's friend.

[Ben Kenobi]

I take back my remark defending Ben.

A man of strong convictions apparently.