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  • Originally posted by MikeH View Post
    I think the evidence tends to point to societal norms masking genetic pre-dispositions.

    I don't see why you are so keen that there shouldn't be a genetic spectrum component and a societal spectrum component. I'm not sure it's proved either way at the moment. Other than that both things have some effect.
    We don't see evidence of a genetic spectrum.

    By that I mean in the animal kingdom or among humans (although it is harder to isolate among humans due to the strong social component).

    In the animal kingdom we do see evidence for genetic 'on-off' homosexual/heterosexual switch. The 'bisexuals' of the animal kingdom are the animals which do not have 'life partners'/etc, the ones who strongly chase after sex (doesn't have to be same species even) the most easily identified animal being the dog. This is obviously a different effect on top of the homosexual/heterosexual part which is observed in incredibly diverse animal species.

    Additionally, with humans these 'risk' genes are not only associated with sexual partners of both sexes, but with other 'risk' behavior (often not sexual). Which is why it is 'risk' genes and not 'bisexual gene'.

    I mean, one could speculate that there was a genetic spectrum component for what age you found people to be sexually attractive. But there isn't any support for that. Same with there being a genetic spectrum component for sexuality.

    And as I said, we are social creatures and which has (arguably) stronger impact than our genetics.

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    • Originally posted by Asher View Post
      A mouth is a mouth.
      Be that as it may, before my tongue goes into a mouth there needs to be certain accessoires present 30 cms below said mouth.

      If those are not present or present at a lower place than expected, no contact !
      "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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      • Alby you should read this and skim through this to get a clue on how to text with women.

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        • I hate to agree with Speer, but I'm another person who would refuse casual sex (even if I weren't in a relationship). I kind of have an on/off switch for physical contact with people. There are about seven billion people for whom that switch is off, and about half a dozen for whom that switch is on. If I'm not emotionally close to a person, I am very, very uncomfortable touching them.

          Additionally, I used to be repulsed by men but am now very comfortable with the fact that I am ever so slightly gay.
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          • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
            Yeah alcohol doesn't have a magical power to change your sexual orientation. It only removes your inhibitions and reveals your true nature.

            MRT likes men.
            This is based on your vast experience with consuming alcohol, right?

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            • No, with men...
              "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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              • Could not compete with the ex boyfriend, uh?

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                • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                  Statistically, most men who have had sex with men in their life do not self-describe as homosexual or bisexual.
                  I don't care about self-descriptions from liars. You **** a man (or desire to **** a man), you are at least bisexual. There's no more nuance than that.
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                  • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                    I don't care about self-descriptions from liars. You **** a man (or desire to **** a man), you are at least bisexual. There's no more nuance than that.
                    Actually self identity is hugely important in sexuality, but you don't know any trans people do you?
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                    • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
                      I hate to agree with Speer, but I'm another person who would refuse casual sex (even if I weren't in a relationship). I kind of have an on/off switch for physical contact with people. There are about seven billion people for whom that switch is off, and about half a dozen for whom that switch is on. If I'm not emotionally close to a person, I am very, very uncomfortable touching them.

                      Additionally, I used to be repulsed by men but am now very comfortable with the fact that I am ever so slightly gay.
                      What about making out with someone casually.
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                      • "Making out casually" is an oxymoronic term to me.
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                        • = whilst wearing jeans.
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                          • I put on my Sunday best to make out.
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                            • As long as you don't make out on a Sunday. Or you'll go to hell.
                              Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                              Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                              We've got both kinds

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                              • Sundays are for football and D&D. Not making out.
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