Meet Your Next. U.S. President

[Ben Kenobi]

You are a hopeless liar who is not worth my time. You're perfect for Texas.

I bet CA's 2010 deficit alone is higher than all of TX's shortfalls, combined.

[giblets]

Wow, Michigan is a pit.

The average Canadian is about as wealthy as the average American in the state of Tennessee. If Canada were a state, Canada would rank 38th on the list. This doesn't take into account the fact that your money goes farther in the US than it does in Canada. Michigan comes in at 11th. The difference is about 2k between the average earnings per Canadian, than the state of Michigan.

I'm sorry, did you just take the purchasing power parity GDP per capita of Canada and claim it doesn't account for cost of living?

[giblets]

I love Texas, it is a very beautiful state. I hate the politics and the ****ing politicians who make it hard to live here.

Blame voters who are as insane as Ben for electing them.

[Ben Kenobi]

Hrm? PPP doesn't adjust enough.

Here's another little tidbit. TX debt per capita is just 500 bucks per person. CA's is 2.5k

[Asher]

Hrm? PPP doesn't adjust enough.

Here's another little tidbit. TX debt per capita is just 500 bucks per person. CA's is 2.5k

That's not an apples to apples comparison...

Alberta debt per capita: $0
Texas debt per capita: $500 (using your numbers, who knows if they're real)

Canada debt per capita: $13,643
USA debt per capita: $38,466.74

[Asher]

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/aug/06/rick-perry/rick-perry-says-texas-has-lowest-capita-state-debt/

Texas' debt per capita is actually $1,227

[Dinner]

PPP doesn't adjust enough? WTF? It results in... wait for it... complete purchasing power parity.

[Ben Kenobi]

As your own source says:

We noticed the Moody’s per-capita figures were smaller than those reached using the census data. That’s because the census bureau’s state debt totals wrap in more kinds of debt--for example, tuition revenue bonds issued on behalf of institutions of higher education. The bureau defines its debt tally as "long-term credit obligations of the government and its agencies whether backed by the governments' full faith and credit or non-guaranteed

Moody's puts it at 619 right now, which is right in line with what I said. Funny that. Even your own source says you are full of ****.

[Ben Kenobi]

PPP doesn't adjust enough? WTF? It results in... wait for it... complete purchasing power parity.

For the US as a whole vs CDN as a whole. Individual difference between states far outwiegh the differences between the two countries.

[Asher]

As your own source says:



Moody's puts it at 619 right now, which is right in line with what I said. Funny that. Even your own source says you are full of ****.

You are not comparing the same things. How am I "full of ****" when the number I quote is explicitly referenced in the article as the debt per capita?

Moody's figure is a subset of the actual debt numbers. Moody's only covers "net tax-supported debt", which is a subset. My number comes from the census bureau with the same criteria as the other numbers listed, so that is the only fair comparison.

From the article:

We noticed the Moody’s per-capita figures were smaller than those reached using the census data. That’s because the census bureau’s state debt totals wrap in more kinds of debt--for example, tuition revenue bonds issued on behalf of institutions of higher education. The bureau defines its debt tally as "long-term credit obligations of the government and its agencies whether backed by the governments' full faith and credit or non-guaranteed."

'****.

[Asher]

For the record, 500 is not 619 so you were not right by any definition.

[SlowwHand]

What? In what world is 500 not 619? Where did you say that you went to school?

[Dinner]

Which day was that? All I see is a direction to a network that carries the show in Canada, but no date.

It was the first show after the straw poll in corn-hole-ville which occurred on Saturday (?) so the show was on last Monday?

[Ben Kenobi]

For the record, 500 is not 619 so you were not right by any definition.

These numbers do change over time.

Moody's figure is a subset of the actual debt numbers. Moody's only covers "net tax-supported debt", which is a subset. My number comes from the census bureau with the same criteria as the other numbers listed, so that is the only fair comparison.

That's not what you said before, is it? Funny how your tune changes when you get called out. You can argue that one is more valid than the other, but that doesn't mean that I'm comparing apples to oranges, when I used the same measure for both. Nor does it mean that my number was unsupported or unverified, when your own source actually confirms what I said. How about we step back a bit and look at the important fact that TX is lower under both calibrations?

[Asher]

These numbers do change over time.

So in what year was it 500?

That's not what you said before, is it? Funny how your tune changes when you get called out.

WTF? Do you even pretend to be in the same discussion as other people anymore? You have this whole conversation going in your head that simply does not exist in reality. This statement of yours is a prime example. WTF are you talking about?

You can argue that one is more valid than the other, but that doesn't mean that I'm comparing apples to oranges, when I used the same measure for both.

You most certainly did not use the same measure for both. You used government figures for Canada's debt and Moody's for Texas'. They do not measure the same thing.

Nor does it mean that my number was unsupported or unverified, when your own source actually confirms what I said. How about we step back a bit and look at the important fact that TX is lower under both calibrations?

It is most certainly higher than Alberta in both figures (prov vs state comparison), and USA is certainly far higher than Canada (nation vs nation comparison).