Originally posted by Hauldren Collider
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Why do 90% of black people vote for Democrats?
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Watch the video, It deals with massively cutting early voting, massively restricting absentee voting, changing the dates which people can register so even months before the election people are turned away when they try to register, it involves forcing people to have not only a state issued id (which is normally a driver's license so poor inner city people often don't drive and won't have one of these) but also requiring certified birth certificates or passports (less then 20% of Americans have passports while elderly people often no longer have their original birth certificate), it involves purging voter rolls so people think they're registered & show up to vote only to find they've been unregistered and have no way to register this election cycle, it involves scrubbing all people with common names if one other person with that name is a felon (even though a quick and easy social security number check would solve this "problem") but only if they're in democratic leaning districts and not if they're in Republicans districts, it involves mailing and/or putting up signs with the wrong day in an attempt to fool people into not showing up to vote on the correct day, it involves putting goons at polling stations to challenge legal voters in an attempt to discourage them from voting, and lastly it involves eliminating or limiting the number of polling stations so there are long lines in black neighborhoods but because there are often 4-6 times as many polling stations in white Republicans so they experience virtually no lines. Oh, and they greatly restrict which times polling stations are open so as to make it as hard as possible for people to vote especially if they're working multiple jobs or relay on public transit.
In short, HC, you don't know a damn thing about what you're talking about so maybe you ought to shut the **** up and educate yourself before you post.Last edited by Dinner; October 11, 2011, 21:59.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Oh, did I mention that many states are trying to charge people for those now legally required state issued I.D.s? Can you say "poll tax"? As in illegal and unconstitutional poll tax designed to discourage and/or prevent poor people from voting? This is getting challenged in court right now but we'll see if the bastards don't delay until after the 2012 election.
Are you still laughing, HC, or is there enough legit complaints there to make you shut the **** up?Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Wow, HC is an idiot. Even his response was wrong.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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Originally posted by gribbler View PostDid you watch the video? Among other things someone wanted to stop mailing ballots to soldiers serving overseas.
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And that's just voter suppression efforts so we haven't even gotten to the gerrymandering of districts which is designed to make sure votes which are cast end up not fairly counting. Both parties do this, unfortunately, but Republicans do it a WHOLE LOT MORE IN A WHOLE LOT MORE STATES while Democratic strongholds like California have passed tough redistricting laws which greatly restrict if not eliminate the power of politicians to gerrymander districts. For an example of gerrymandering let's take a swing state where 50% of the population votes one way and 50% vote the other; the election results should be evenly split but via the magic of gerrymandering you divide up the other guys voters and concentrate your own which can easily result in 3/4ths of the districts going to one party and only 1/4th going to the other. This is even though the actual number of votes cast for each party is identical.
All of these efforts are designed to do one thing, make sure the will of the people is thrawted so that one party can maintain power even if they didn't or couldn't win in a free, fair, and open election.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that you're probably talking about requiring a government issued ID to vote. Yes, the end of our republic! Democracy is doomed! I have to get a driver's license or a passport or god forbid a DMV ID card!Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that you're probably talking about requiring a government issued ID to vote. Yes, the end of our republic! Democracy is doomed! I have to get a driver's license or a passport or god forbid a DMV ID card!
People who are too poor to own a car may have no use for a drivers license.
People who are too poor to travel have no use for a passport.
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Originally posted by Oerdin View PostIt deals with massively cutting early voting, massively restricting absentee voting
People who are too poor to own a car may have no use for a drivers license.
You need a driver's license to get into bars.
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Let us also keep in mind that all of these restrictions on voting and voter suppression efforts as supposedly designed to prevent vote fraud. In 2003 through 2007 the Bush white house, lead by the Republican operative Karl Rove, spent almost $300 million in taxpayer money to show that vote fraud was occurring and so massive new restrictions on voting were necessary. After four years and hundreds of millions of dollars of public money being spent Rove was forced to close his voter suppression efforts because they couldn't identify even ONE SINGLE CASE of vote fraud (I.E. someone illegally voting when they shouldn't have). Yet after all that public money and all those years Republicans went and passed massive new voter restrictions, why? Simple, these are classic voter suppression efforts designed to prevent minorities or really any Democratic leaning voter from using their legal right to vote.
That's just one reason, albeit a big one, I say Republicans have become text book examples of fascism. That's not hyperbole and instead it is simply a fact when one looks at the definition of fascism.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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