A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Ecthy]

Spoiler:

Dorne's my favorite region as well, although the whole Myrcella plotline is a big waste of space. I also like Quentyn Martell as he reminds me of myself at that age, getting eaten by a dragon like an idiot is probably the sort of thing I'd end up doing if I were in Westeros

Spoiler:

Well, lucky for him if he would have been eaten. In fact he just got toasted and died a several day long painful death, including remarks his mixed ancestry may have "protected" him from a quick death.

Talking about spoilers, the other day I acquired a movie (book of eli) and by circumstance landed on a website with user comments. One of the first was a huge plot spoiler, just for the troll. Changed the movie experience.

[regexcellent]

Spoiler:

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

I think it's rapidly becoming obvious that I'm the only participant in this thread who'll never need to use spoiler tags.

EPISODE 4! Nice to see that Simon from "Misfits" is playing a villain. I always thought he'd handle creep roles really well.

[Guynemer]

Another phenomenal episode. Several amazing scenes: Beric & Sandor, Arya & Gendry, Beric & Thoros & Arya, Tyrion & Olenna, Robb & Arnolf, Tywin & Tyrion & Cersei... to say nothing of The Lord's Kiss.

[regexcellent]

First lesson: stick it with the pointy end

[Robert]

Jon Snow, Daenerys Targaryen, Tyrion Lannister, Bran Stark, Arya Stark, and arguably Sansa Stark are the main characters.

You forgot the Lannister Twins, Theon Greyjoy, Arianne of Dorne and Sam.

[Robert]

Re book vs TV series, I reserve judgement, but would say the books are better. If the TV series can make the following spoiler funnier than when I read it in the book, the TV series may win on that one count.

Spoiler:

Tywin's death

Spoiler:

Tywin's death

contains many many plots that are untold but can be read between the lines. It's one of those things why the books are so good. There are a lot of plots and stories told without explicitly mentioning them. you can reread the books and learn new things.

The tv show obviously can't do that,

[Robert]

I've no idea- but if it was, it wasn't edited well. And as for all the others...

It's H P Lovecraft Syndrome. Great imagination, but little technical skill as a writer.

LOTR wasn't, but surely should.
LOTR starts of as a children tale, like the Hobbit, including Pippin, Merry, Frodo and Sam washing themselves in a bathroom and playing around with the water, etc. It's quite horrible.
Then there's the Tom Bombadil chapter, which is very mysterious, but also written for children.
And worst of all of course is Return of the King, which is splitted into 2 books, the first book only focussing on Aragorn & Co and the 2nd book only focussing on Frodo & Sam. You've totally lost touch with some characters when they're reintroduced after like 30 chapters.

Despite that, it's still a great read!
And so is GRRM's ASOIAF.

Best book is book 3, and I agree with rah that Dance with Dragons last part is totally on par with that as well.
Not to mention that what's been setup at the end of ADWD is very promising.

First GRRM had the intention to create a 5 years gap, but then later he decided that it would be better to just tell the story of the gap as well. Those in-between books are great, but not as great as the first books. Still better then almost everything else I have read.

[Robert]

You may have some conservation of characters, buuuuut:

Spoiler:

I wasn't thinking necessarily of Quentin with Dorne, but you'll have to introduce more than a few Dornishfolk because you are introducing a new place altogether - and the almost kidnapping Myrcella plot I think may be important. And perhaps they'll merge Euron & Victarion, but that may cause more problems down the line, esp if Victarion gets himself killed while Euron is still fighting in the upcoming books

Spoiler:

Quentin is important, otherwise the greatest prophecy of the series wouldn't have been fulfilled!

"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before."

[Nikolai]

Spoiler:

Quentin is important, otherwise the greatest prophecy of the series wouldn't have been fulfilled!

"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before."

Spoiler:

Remind me, what does Quentin have to do with the prophesy?

[MikeH]

I think it's rapidly becoming obvious that I'm the only participant in this thread who'll never need to use spoiler tags.

EPISODE 4! Nice to see that Simon from "Misfits" is playing a villain. I always thought he'd handle creep roles really well.

He was sort of playing someone who was perceived to be a creep/villain at the beginning of Misfits. That was such a good show at the start. I didn't watch the latest season though... didn't feel like getting invested in new cast.

[Guynemer]

Spoiler:

Remind me, what does Quentin have to do with the prophesy?

Yeah, you lost me there, Plomp.

Spoiler:

Unless Quentin is the sun (Martell sigil) that rises in the West (born in Westeros) and sets in the East (dies in Essos). I mean, that fits, but it seems a stretch, and I don't see anything else fitting.

[Krill]

They really need to do more than 10 episodes per season.

[Asher]

Now last night's episode had the kind of nudity I can get behind.

[Nikolai]

Haven't seen it yet. But let me guess: Unsullied in sweat and oil and sun?