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  • Originally posted by Asher View Post
    Weak in the areas you arbitrarily choose to measure. Which, for the last time, is entirely my point. Your "test" is designed to favour football players. And you're so stupid you don't even realize different sports require different muscle developments, and therefore different tests and criteria.
    I'M USING THE NHL COMBINE DATA!!! THE NHL!!!!!!
    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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    • Summarize the argument for me. Albert thinks you can compare a hockey player's level of athletic ability to that of a football player? That's silly, I've watched a few hockey games and it's a very different sport. Hockey players would beat football players at hockey and football players would beat hockey players in a football game.

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      • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
        I'M USING THE NHL COMBINE DATA!!! THE NHL!!!!!!
        Okay. Okay...last post on this before I rule you incapable of understanding.

        YES, they measure all kinds of numbers on physical strength. NO, the numbers are NOT supposed to be comparable to NFL players in those specific tests that intersect BECAUSE THE SPORTS ARE DIFFERENT. And as such they require different muscle strengths. Bench pressing 250lbs is POINTLESS for NHL players, so they DO NOT TRAIN for it and that is why it is epicly retarded to compare the results and draw any conclusions aside from the fact that THEY DO NOT TRAIN THOSE MUSCLES TO THE SAME DEGREE AS NFL PLAYERS.

        What do you not understand here?
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          • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
            Summarize the argument for me. Albert thinks you can compare a hockey player's level of athletic ability to that of a football player? That's silly, I've watched a few hockey games and it's a very different sport. Hockey players would beat football players at hockey and football players would beat hockey players in a football game.
            Asher says otherwise.

            and shut the **** up. If you're not even going to read the thread, why the **** say anything?
            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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            • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
              Asher says otherwise.
              I never said NHL players could beat NFL players at football.

              I said they could PLAY football. And football players really can't play hockey.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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              • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                Asher says otherwise.
                Sorry, I haven't read this whole thing. If you could quote the post where he said something along the lines of 'NHL players would beat NFL players in a football game' please do so.

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                • BTW, Alby, the players who score highest in most of the football-esque tests like benchpressing on the hockey team are the "enforcers".

                  They're also BY FAR the least skilled and valuable hockey players.

                  Another thing you may not get.
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                  • Nobody has answered the question: could they play cricket?

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                    • Also, even if NFL players had 100% perfect technique, I'm fairly certain that they'd never be able to shoot ~105mph slapshots and the like. You know why, Alby? Because football players really don't train those muscles used in that shot.
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                      • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                        Sorry, I haven't read this whole thing. If you could quote the post where he said something along the lines of 'NHL players would beat NFL players in a football game' please do so.
                        Here, *******:

                        Originally posted by Asher View Post
                        I said they could PLAY football. And football players really can't play hockey.
                        Fine. Not beat. But he still differentiated between the sports saying that football players can NOT play hockey but that hockey plays CAN play football.
                        "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                        • Who do you think would be most competitive?

                          Football players playing a game of hockey, or hockey players playing a game of football?

                          Chances are 99% of the football players would fall flat on their ass as soon as they got on the ice.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • Chances are 99% of the hockey players would be knocked flat on their ass as soon as they got on the grass.

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                            • On a random topic...looks like Keith Ballard hurt his knee badly tonight.

                              The picture looks painful.

                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                                Who do you think would be most competitive?

                                Football players playing a game of hockey, or hockey players playing a game of football?

                                Chances are 99% of the football players would fall flat on their ass as soon as they got on the ice.
                                Well yeah because skating is a ****ing skill. That was what I was saying before.

                                That's why you need to account for the sport-specific skills and any comparison would have to be common and on a level playing field. Fortunately, the NHL and NFL combines test their prospects in three areas in common. That gives some idea of the relative ability of the athletes between the sports. NFL players have greater upper-body and leg strength than NHL players. The NHL doesn't have any data on running speed but it would not be a stretch to say that NFL players also run faster since I highly doubt NHL players have 4.5 or faster 40 yard dash times.

                                I'm done with you. I've ****ing proved my point with actual data. You have spewed forth prejudiced diarrhea. I have actual stats. You've said vague crap.

                                Whatever. **** you.
                                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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