Hey Look!!! It's Obama's Birth Certificate!

[MikeH]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog...cate-statement

10.20am ET: With a great sense of timing, earlier this morning I'd blogged on the very subject of Trump, Obama and birtherism, which noted this from a new USA Today/Gallup opinion poll:

[I]n the USA Today poll, only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA, and 18% say he probably was. Fifteen percent say he probably was born in another country, and 9% say he definitely was born elsewhere.

And when the same sample was asked if Donald Trump was born in the US, here's the result:

For what it's worth, not everyone is convinced Trump was born in the USA either: 43% say he definitely was born here, and 20% say he probably was; 7% say he definitely or probably was born in another country. Nearly three in 10 say they don't know enough to say.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Thankfully the flyover states have all the land based nukes and the military hates him so the air force and subs won't launch either.

that was good thinking from previous patriotic presidents, keeping the country in safe hands

you have to plan for protection from internal enemies, those are the most dangerous...

[loinburger]

Sometimes I have to wonder where all these birthers are. None of my repug friends are birthers and I have a lot of repug friends. None of us think he's a practicing Muslim. The only debatable point was some think he may have been a Muslim when he was really young and attended Muslim school, but these same people will concede that he went to a Catholic school also. None of them really gave a rats ass about what religions one is exposed to when really young. He's been a practicing Christian since the he was a young adult. Which is more than I can say, having grown up Catholic in Catholic schools. I consider myself Christian but by any measure based on practicing, I'm not really.

And I really doubt that Trump is a birther. An attention whore, of course.

Presumably all of the Republicans you know graduated from high school

[rah]

Texas and the flyover states. You live in a proper modern metropolis, with good education etc.

That part I get. But 40% is really scary to me. If almost everyone that lives in a proper modern metro with an education isn't a birther (not counting those that really aren't but say it just for the attention) That means that a vast majority of those that live in rural areas have a higher number of teeth than IQ.

[Guynemer]

I'm not sure how this'll play out. Initially, I thought the longer this went on, the better for Mr. Soetoro, as it made the Right look completely ape**** bananas to Independents. But if the initial response on the fringe Right (see above) holds up... holy ****, what a brilliant move by the White House.

[rah]

Presumably all of the Republicans you know graduated from high school

Correct. And actually most of them had further education. I'm pretty sure the more than 60% of people graduate HS.

[Guynemer]

That part I get. But 40% is really scary to me. If almost everyone that lives in a proper modern metro with an education isn't a birther (not counting those that really aren't but say it just for the attention) That means that a vast majority of those that live in rural areas have a higher number of teeth than IQ.

It took you this long to realize this? The GOP is reaping the anti-intellectualism it has sown for decades. Which is profoundly sad, because as much as I dislike Americans in general, we really ought to have at least one functional political party, and the Democrats sure as **** don't fit the bill.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I'm not sure how this'll play out. Initially, I thought the longer this went on, the better for Mr. Soetoro, as it made the Right look completely ape**** bananas to Independents. But if the initial response on the fringe Right (see above) holds up... holy ****, what a brilliant move by the White House.

For political reasons, he likely should have waited to release it right before the Iowa primaries.

[Guynemer]

Of course, Obama says "we don't have time for this nonsense," says we need to focus on more important things, and naturally this is the banner #1 story on every news site in the known universe.

God I hate the press.

[rah]

The repugs catering to the poor uneducated whites isn't really any different that the Dems catering to the poor uneducated non-whites.

I realize this, but always find myself astounded at the size of that group.

[rah]

For political reasons, he likely should have waited to release it right before the Iowa primaries.

The nutters didn't believe it the first time , and as we can see, they're not believing it this time, so what make you think that can't release it again to stir up the same hysteria?

[Guynemer]

The repugs catering to the poor uneducated whites isn't really any different that the Dems catering to the poor uneducated non-whites.

I realize this, but always find myself astounded at the size of that group.

Exactly. The size of that group >>> the size of the uneducated group to whom the Dems pander.

[The Mad Monk]

Holy ****ing ****, are you ****ing serious?

He's the Poly equivalent of The Weekly World News, what did you expect?

[Guynemer]

Occasionally, I lapse into an almost rah-like attitude of cautious optimism about my fellow man. Mea culpa.

[rah]

Sometime having a little hope is better than the alternative.