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  • #46
    It just goes to show that one Canadian cannot changing the station.

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    • #47
      I take it this means that there will be no more playing of "Fairytale Of New York" at Christmas either in Canada...if you actually played it in the first place that is.
      Speaking of Erith:

      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      • #48
        It was played many times during Christmas, and this fact was brought up in many articles laughing at the "ban".
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Provost Harrison View Post
          I take it this means that there will be no more playing of "Fairytale Of New York" at Christmas either in Canada...if you actually played it in the first place that is.
          Two things:
          For the Top of the Pops appearance, the BBC insisted that MacColl's singing of "arse" be replaced with the less offensive "ass", although as she mimed the word MacColl slapped the relevant part of her body to make it clear what was meant.
          "arse" is more offensive than "ass" over there?

          and
          On December 18, 2007, BBC Radio 1 put a ban on the words "******" and "slut" from "Fairytale of New York" to "avoid offence".[7] The words, sung as Kirsty MacColl and MacGowan trade insults, were dubbed out. MacColl's mother, Jean, called the ban "too ridiculous", while the Pogues said they found it "amusing". The BBC said: "We are playing an edited version because some members of the audience might find it offensive". Later that evening Radio 1 backed down and said that after a day of criticism from listeners, the band, and MacColl's mother, they reversed the decision.[8] The unedited version was then played later on that day. Other BBC radio stations, including the typically conservative Radio 2, had continued to play the original version throughout this period, the ban having applied to Radio 1 only. The MTV channels in the UK also subject the song to censorship by removing and scrambling the words "slut", "******" and "arse".
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #50
            Is that what the kids call getting "burned"?
            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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            • #51
              Now I've seen everything.

              The CRTC (Canadian equivalent of FCC) has asked the CSBC to "review their decision" on the Money for Nothing ruling.





              Government chastising private groups for censorship.

              The letter: http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2011/lb110121.htm
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                In one version of the origin it refers to Prince.
                HOW DARE THEY?!

                WHO IS THIS DIRE STRAIGHTS TO DARE BESMIRCH PRINCE?!
                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                • #53
                  It's a great song, Alby. You would hate it.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #54
                    "Straits" Albie.

                    Probably fans of Led Zeppelin.
                    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                    • #55
                      Apparently they performed with Prince a few years ago:

                      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                      • #56
                        You obviously do not understand the song.

                        You're used to simplistic rap songs & themes...
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #57
                          Good rap songs are generally more lyrically complex than rock songs for the simple reason that the lyrics are basically the only thing the rapper brings to the table and lyrical complexity features more prominently in rap songs.

                          And by lyrical complexity I mean in an objective technical sense of use of poetic devices such as polysyllabic rhymes, assonance and consonance, meter, and metaphor.

                          In fact, correct me if I am wrong but the use of polysyllabic rhymes/assonance/consonance is very rare in rock lyrics but is virtually standard in all but ****** South rap.
                          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                            Good rap songs are generally more lyrically complex than rock songs for the simple reason that the lyrics are basically the only thing the rapper brings to the table and lyrical complexity features more prominently in rap songs.

                            And by lyrical complexity I mean in an objective technical sense of use of poetic devices such as polysyllabic rhymes, assonance and consonance, meter, and metaphor.
                            rhyming, assonance, consonance, and meter do not ****ing make something lyrically complex.

                            In fact, correct me if I am wrong but the use of polysyllabic rhymes/assonance/consonance is very rare in rock lyrics but is virtually standard in all but ****** South rap.
                            That has **** all to do with lyrical complexity. This is part of rap's problem -- style over substance.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #59
                              Admit it. Generally speaking, ignoring the worst of both genres, rap lyrics are more technically complex than rock lyrics.
                              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                                Admit it. Generally speaking, ignoring the worst of both genres, rap lyrics are more technically complex than rock lyrics.
                                It depends how you are defining complex, and what kind of rock you're speaking of (which is far, far more diverse than rap).

                                I don't consider rapping complex when it's got different rhyming, assonance, consonance, meter, whatever. I'm talking about complex lyrics that are not blunt and plain. I'm talking about hidden themes, complex metaphors, etc.

                                I love songs where they need to be deciphered. Rap is just...all out there...

                                Here are two songs by the same band that I just happen to be listening to right now. Can you even decipher the themes in them?

                                "Brainy"
                                I’ve been draggin around from the end of your coat for two weeks
                                everywhere you go is swirlin, everything you say has water under it

                                You know I keep your fingerprints in a pink folder in the middle of my table
                                you’re the tall kingdom I surround
                                think I better follow you around

                                You might need me more than you think you will
                                come home in the car you love, brainy brainy brainy

                                I’ve been draggin around from the end of your coat for two weeks
                                you keep changing you’re fancy fancy mind every time I decide to let go

                                I was up all night again, boning up and reading the American dictionary
                                you’ll never believe me what I found
                                think I better follow you around

                                You might need me more than you think you will
                                come home in the car you love, brainy brainy brainy
                                you might need me more than you think you will
                                come home in the car you love, brainy brainy brainy
                                "Slow Show"
                                Standing at the punch table swallowing punch
                                can’t pay attention to the sound of anyone
                                a little more stupid, a little more scared
                                every minute more unprepared

                                I made a mistake in my life today
                                everything I love gets lost in drawers
                                I want to start over, I want to be winning
                                way out of sync from the beginning

                                I wanna hurry home to you
                                put on a slow, dumb show for you
                                and crack you up
                                so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
                                god I’m very, very frightening
                                I’ll overdo it

                                Looking for somewhere to stand and stay
                                I leaned on the wall and the wall leaned away
                                Can I get a minute of not being nervous
                                and not thinking of my dick
                                My leg is sparkles, my leg is pins
                                I better get my **** together, better gather my **** in
                                You could drive a car through my head in five minutes
                                from one side of it to the other

                                I wanna hurry home to you
                                put on a slow, dumb show for you
                                and crack you up
                                so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
                                god I’m very, very frightening
                                I’ll overdo it

                                You know I dreamed about you
                                for twenty-nine years before I saw you
                                You know I dreamed about you
                                I missed you for
                                for twenty-nine years

                                You know I dreamed about you
                                for twenty-nine years before I saw you
                                You know I dreamed about you
                                I missed you for
                                for twenty-nine years
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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