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"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View PostI don't know what you consider 'lyrical complexity' but technical complexity defined as the usage of polysyllabic rhymes and other poetic devices is greater in that verse than in any rock song I have ever heard.
They may use lots of "poetic devices" like rhyming ( ), but that doesn't make it complex. It makes it poetry.
When I refer to lyrical complexity, I mean non-literal lyrics. I mean lyrics that say a lot with just a couple words. I don't mean rhyming clit and hit, or COMPLEX MULTISYLLABIC RHYMES like "I let the beat commence so I can beat the sense in your elite defense". I think those are **** lyrics, simple lyrics with childish rhyming only. No substance.
Look at the use of alliteration in this song. Ignore the DJ talking for the first 30 seconds but he explains what rapper Papoose is doing.
That's a difference in mindset between rap and rock."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Asher, lyrics that are 'bigger' than what they state are
Like I said, you mightaswell love Jackson Pollack and other abstract artists.
Realism : Jackson Pollack :: Rap : Rock"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
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Asher is no friend of abstract art, that's why I say this, but I think the analogy holds true.
Like rap, Realism is straight-forward without much nuance, it shows what it means, and there's an emphasis on technical mastery of the craft (for rappers, the use of poetic devices; for realist painters, accurate depictions of physical reality).
His rock lyrics are technically simple like Pollack's splashes of paint but underlie greater meaning. Or so he claims, as would an admirer of Pollack."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
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Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View PostAlert, assassins at large allegedly
Automatic artillery, angrily aimed and aggressively
Accurate AK's angled all ways
Adversary afraid as active ammunition abraise
Accumulated an alias after arrested
Accompanied armed accessory, as an adolescent
cover cowards' corners collecting cash
Confirmed convicts committing crimes clapping cats
Creeping cashiers causing characters comas, capping crabs
Chaos causing, clearly commanding Cee-Lo
Cocaine capsule caps colored, capturing customer's C-Notes
Confiscating combination, counting cream capulating
Cocking calibur chromes creating casualties
And you think that's good just because someone has strung together a meaningless collection of words starting with the same letter? I won't be wasting any more time on this.
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Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View PostAsher is no friend of abstract art, that's why I say this, but I think the analogy holds true.
Like rap, Realism is straight-forward without much nuance, it shows what it means
Thank you."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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It's not meaningless.
Automatic artillery is angrily aimed aggressively.
Those weapons consist of accurate AK's that will make an adversary afraid as the ammunition abrases him. It is not nonsensical.
Like I said, it's a case of style over substance. Papoose was an up-and-coming rapper who made the song to promote himself. At the end of the video, the DJ even says A&R's call me so you can sign this guy. It was an advertisement basically to showcase Papoose's technical ability.
That was a SHOWCASE.
Just like battle rapping is a showcase."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
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Originally posted by Cort Haus View Post
And you think that's good just because someone has strung together a meaningless collection of words starting with the same letter? I won't be wasting any more time on this."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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clits *** callously causing caustic collaboration
dicks don't die, due to masturbation[/all-star rapper]
ALLITERATION! METAPHOR! PERSONIFICATION! POLYSYLLABIC RHYMING!"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Here, Asher. You want lyrics that take effort to decipher. It's still pretty apparent but it's not plain as day to some people.
[Lupe Fiasco]
Uh.. yeah
He just sits, and watches the people in the boxes
Everything he sees he absorbs and adopts it
He mimics and he mocks it
Really hates the box but he can't remember how to stop, it
Uh, so he continues to watch it
Hoping that it'll give him something that he can box with
Or how the locksmith, see the box as, locked in the box
Ain't got the combination to unlock, it
That's why he watch-es, scared to look away
Cause at that moment, it might show him
What to take off the locks with
So he chained himself to the box, took a lock and then he locked it
Swallowed the combination and then forgot, it
As the doctors jot it all down, with they pens and pencils
The same ones that took away his voice
And just left this instrumental, like that
[Chorus: Jonah Matranga + (Lupe)]
And he never lies (he never lies, he never lies, uh)
And he never lies (uh, he never lies, he never lies, no)
And he never lies (he never lies)
Cause he never said anything at all
[Lupe Fiasco]
He just sits, and listens to the people in the boxes
Everything he hears he absorbs and adopts it
Anything not coming out the box he blocks it
See he loves to box and hope they never stop it
Anything the box tell him to do, he does it
Anything it tell him to get, he shops and he cops it
He protects the box, locks it in a box
when he goes to sleep, but he never sleeps
Cause he stays up to watch it, scared to look away
Cause at that moment, it might get stolen
And that's the last of the boxes
So he chained himself to the box, took a lock and then he locked it
Swallowed the combination and then forgot, it
As the doctors jot it all down, with they pens and pencils
The same ones that took away his voice
And just left this instrumental, like that
[Chorus]
[Lupe Fiasco]
(Anything at all..) He never lies
Uh, and you can't tell me just who you are
You buy new clothes just to hide those scars
You built that roof just to hide those stars
Now you can't take it back to the start
And you can't tell me just who you are
You buy new clothes just to hide those scars
You built that roof just to hide those stars
Now you can't take it back to the start
[Chorus]
[Lupe Fiasco]
(Anything at all.. anything at all..)
Uh, and you can't tell me just who you are
You buy new clothes just to hide those scars
You built that roof just to hide those stars
Now you can't take it back to the start
And you can't tell me just who you are
You buy new clothes just to hide those scars
You built that roof just to hide those stars
Now you can't take it back to the start
[repeats and fades as Josh ad libs]"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
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That's better than most, but of course you know it was co-written by a rocker, right?
It's not too deep though. Pretty sure it's about someone addicted to TV or uses it for escape. Mixed in with a little self-loathing."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by Asher View PostThat's better than most, but of course you know it was co-written by a rocker, right?
It's not too deep though. Pretty sure it's about someone addicted to TV or uses it for escape."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
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