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Yes, Arizona is on the border. It also passed a strict anti-illegal-immigration law that is probably really stupid.
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I agree with this stunning argument. We shouldn't control or ban anything at all.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
Well done."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Holy ****, way to miss the point. If you're trying to keep guns out of the hands of crooks, banning them is not likely to work that well here.Originally posted by Asher View PostIf there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Yes, and people break laws as well.Originally posted by Braindead View Post
With the insights in this thread, we could publish a best-selling book."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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No, you miss the point. Crooks will always get ahold of whatever they want to get. They're crooks. Laws don't apply to them. This is why it's a ****ing retarded argument.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
If your argument is "everyone should be armed to the teeth because the crooks have guns", then I can only point you to the statistics you've done a tremendous job of trying to ignore to explain why that strategy is demonstrably ridiculously flawed. While career criminals and gangs and organized crime will assuredly always get guns/kiddy porn/cocaine, etc, we should still regulate those.
If the teen-with-anger-management-issues can go down to his local Walmart and get a gun then shoot his girlfriend for cheating on him, do you think he'll give a **** that guns cross the border in Arizona and you could find a shady gun dealer on the black market?
You really need to stop thinking of all crime as organized crime. It's not. Most are crimes of opportunity. If you reduce the availability of guns, you reduce the usage of guns in crimes of opportunity. This is not only ****ing obvious, but every stat imaginable bears this out."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Given the axiom that laws are broken, the law breaking activity should be actually murdering someone with a weapon, not possessing it.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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What the ****? The fact that laws don't apply to crooks IS EXACTLY THE REASON THAT GUN CONTROL IS STUPID. You have just conceded the strongest argument in favor of gun freedom as good public policy! You moron!Originally posted by Asher View Post
If crooks can get guns anyway, why bother banning them?If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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If pedophiles can get kiddy porn anyway, why bother banning it?Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
If drug addicts can get cocaine anyway, why bother banning it?
If rapists will rape anyway, why bother banning it?
If car thieves will steal cars anyway, why bother banning it?
And you call me a moron."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Because all of those things are bad by themselves! Owning a gun hurts no one. Do you think that machine gun sitting on the wall in a rural Virginia canoe shop is hurting anyone just by sitting there?Originally posted by Asher View PostIf there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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To make the absurdity perfectly clear....
What the ****? The fact that laws don't apply to crooks IS EXACTLY THE REASON THAT BANNING KIDDY PORN IS STUPID. You have just conceded the strongest argument in favor of legalizing kiddy porn as good public policy! You moron!
If crooks can get kiddy porn anyway, why bother banning them?"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Tell me, HC...what is the purpose of a gun?Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
Cocaine itself hurts no one, too.
Hell, owning a nuclear bomb hurts no one as well."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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If you had your way, the criminals would be the only ones with guns. That would be particularly delightful for the criminals. Are you a lobbyist for the Mafia?Originally posted by Asher View Post
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You're making a false comparison here...I dare you to try to see where your logic completely breaks down. Hint: it's in the post right above the one quoted in this.Originally posted by Asher View PostIf there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Hunting? Target shooting? Collecting? People like guns.Originally posted by Asher View Post
Oh yeah, self defense, there's that too
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Note that his is exactly the case in the UK. And I ask you to, again, compare the UK/US statistics and tell me they are not night and day.Originally posted by Braindead View PostIf you had your way, the criminals would be the only ones with guns. That would be particularly delightful for the criminals. Are you a lobbyist for the Mafia?
Would the police be allowed to have guns?"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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