Religion: Real or Fake

[DaShi]

Religionistas lie too. Therefore, you are lying.

[Kidlicious]

Religionistas lie too. Therefore, you are lying.

That doesn't help your argument at all.

[giblets]

You do indeed offend me, because you accuse other people of not using reason to come to the truth. But human nature is not reasonable. You pass your ideology (materialism) off as a kind of science, but it's nothing more than a world view that you believe on in faith. Every bit of 'evidence' that supports your worldview you see as heavy. Every bit of 'evidence' that supports an anti-materialism world view you see as light or nothing. You're a hypocrite! You claim to be enlightened, but you're just like other men.

If I think I'm better then you it's only because of that, that I'm honest with myself and others. I don't pass myself off as above it all.

But you're forgiven. That's the difference. I don't wish you any ill-will. That I think is the difference. You're pushing an agenda and you don't care if any individual get run over in the process of it.

hahaha what? There are lots of Christians whom I never accuse of being unreasonable because they seem like reasonable people. Of course, there are some Christians I find to be unreasonable because they just can't stop assuming they know what my thoughts are and they insist that if I claim to know better than them what my thoughts are, I must be lying.

But hey, I forgive you for being an *******. You probably do it without even trying.

[rah]

Atheists lie because of human nature. We know this because of the scientific evidence and by our own human experience.

And non-atheists lie because??????

[Kidlicious]

hahaha what? There are lots of Christians whom I never accuse of being unreasonable because they seem like reasonable people. Of course, there are some Christians I find to be unreasonable because they just can't stop assuming they know what my thoughts are and they insist that if I claim to know better than them what my thoughts are, I must be lying.

But hey, I forgive you for being an *******. You probably do it without even trying.

Then it is reasonable to believe on faith, in something that is spiritual? Thank you. Now go away.

[giblets]

Then it is reasonable to believe on faith, in something that is spiritual? Thank you. Now go away.

Go away? I am not your employee or your student, so you don't get to dismiss me.

[Kidlicious]

Go away? I am not your employee or your student, so you don't get to dismiss me.

Go troll somewhere else. If you are a spiritualist then don't argue as a materialist.

[giblets]

Go troll somewhere else. If you are a spiritualist then don't argue as a materialist.

I think you're a troll.

[Kidlicious]

Talk about moving the goal posts. gribbler is Ben K more than anyone.

[Kidlicious]

I think you're a troll.

I don't believe you.

[MikeH]

ignore was a poor choice of word

He clarified, explained, corrected a lot of the OT and implied that if in doubt you should follow the spirit of what he was teaching more than some barbaric old testament nuttiness.

[giblets]

Talk about moving the goal posts. gribbler is Ben K more than anyone.

What were my original goal posts? Quote me.

[DaShi]

That doesn't help your argument at all.

What's my argument then?

[Kidlicious]

What were my original goal posts? Quote me.

If you think spiritualists are reasonable that's just fine with me, but why are you arguing against me? I'm not arguing against you. Do you have something personal against me? This doesn't make sense.

[DaShi]

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