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  • We're talking long-term, Asher. I know I can handle it physically. Darius said that he knew he couldn't hack it. He probably can't but it won't be because his body; it'll be because his spirit is weak. Given enough work, he can build his body to be able to handle it even if he takes multiple tries like myself.
    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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    • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
      No such thing as spirit being willing but the flesh being weak and it being out of your control. The flesh can always be improved. It is definitely within your control, if your spirit is truly willing.

      Apparently the spirit can't be improved.
      Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
      Darius said that he knew he couldn't hack it. He probably can't but it won't be because his body; it'll be because his spirit is weak.

      No. Clearly you've never been to medical school. Or any remotely biology-related class for that matter.

      Yes, you can make a muscle stronger and more endurant. Yes, you can make your cardiopulmonary system more efficient. No, you cannot will cartilage to grow where it wasn't, will a vertebrae to be 2mm posterior to where it is, will a compressed neuroma to disappear, will a hunchback to be properly aligned, will years of tar to exit your lungs, will a flat foot to be arched, will an amputated leg to regenerate, will a fracture to fuse, will a C3-severed spinal cord to transmit messages from your penis, etc. etc. etc. Quit being deliberately obtuse.
      Last edited by Darius871; November 15, 2010, 00:20.
      Unbelievable!

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      • Alby seems to have some romantic vision of the marines, which is combined with an amazing display of tunnel vision...

        It's like watching a trainwreck.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • You need to have a backup plan.

          Dude, if worse comes to worse just join the Dallas Police Department. I'm not joking either. The force is always understaffed since they're constantly firing cops for corruption, and their physical fitness requirements are a joke. IIRC, you have to run a mile in 18 minutes to join and they don't even make you do standard pushups. They actually allow candidates to lock their knees to the ground! It probably pays just as well as the military without being as dangerous I imagine.

          And considering how old and out of shape most DPD officers are, I'm sure they'd jump right on the prospect of hiring someone who is young, in good physical condition, with a bachelors degree.

          I'm not kidding. If you promise not to tell weird stories and ask for advice, I would even let you stay at my place while you go to their orientations/testing. All of the surrounding police departments hold their hiring rounds around the same 2 week period during the fall and later in the spring.

          I know how it can feel to be unemployed for a long period of time.
          Last edited by Riesstiu IV; November 15, 2010, 00:21.

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          • Originally posted by Darius871 View Post
            No. Clearly you've never been to medical school. Or any remotely biology-related class for that matter.

            Yes you can make a muscle stronger and more endurant. Yes you can make your cardiopulmonary system more efficient. No you cannot will cartilage to grow where it wasn't, will a vertebrae to be 2mm posterior to where it is, will a flat foot to be arched, will a compressed neuroma to disappear, will an amputated leg to regenerate, etc. etc. etc.
            You're right. If you have a disqualifying condition that's one thing. You didn't make that clear from your post.
            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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            • Originally posted by Riesstiu IV View Post
              You need to have a backup plan.

              Dude, if worse comes to worse just join the Dallas Police Department. I'm not joking either. The force is always understaffed since they're constantly firing cops for corruption, and their physical fitness requirements are a joke. IIRC, you have to run a mile in 18 minutes to join. It probably pays just as well as the military without being as dangerous I imagine.
              Plus, there's the corruption.
              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
              "Capitalism ho!"

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              • Granted it's not as glorious as being a marine but you do get a cut of any drugs you seize.

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                • Originally posted by Riesstiu IV View Post
                  You need to have a backup plan.

                  Dude, if worse comes to worse just join the Dallas Police Department. I'm not joking either. The force is always understaffed since they're constantly firing cops for corruption, and their physical fitness requirements are a joke. IIRC, you have to run a mile in 18 minutes to join and they don't even make you do standard pushups. They actually allow candidates to lock their knees to the ground! It probably pays just as well as the military without being as dangerous I imagine.

                  And considering how old and out of shape most DPD officers are, I'm sure they'd jump right on the prospect of hiring someone who is young, in good physical condition, with a bachelors degree.

                  I'm not kidding. If you promise not to tell weird stories and ask for advice, I would even let you stay at my place while you go to their orientations/testing. All of the surrounding police departments hold their hiring rounds around the same 2 week period during the fall and later in the spring.

                  I know how it can feel to be unemployed for a long period of time.
                  Why wouldn't I just join the Philly PD if I wanted to do that? Why would I go to the city that Sloww lives in? *shudder*
                  "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                  "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                  • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                    You're right. If you have a disqualifying condition that's one thing. You didn't make that clear from your post.

                    What else could it have meant? Yes, there were several, but I had no intention of disclosing them and it wasn't until attempting a pre-enlistment workout regimen that I knew for sure that it would have been a no-go with or without a waiver.

                    In any event, just because what's wrong with you isn't a diagnosed medical condition specifically listed in voluminous disqualification regulations, that doesn't mean the body fate gave you doesn't have limitations well below what the Marines demand. If merely running from point A to point B a number of times breaks your bones, something's not quite right, whether it's diagnosed or not.
                    Unbelievable!

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                    • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                      Why wouldn't I just join the Philly PD if I wanted to do that? Why would I go to the city that Sloww lives in? *shudder*
                      You might have to join the whatever Police Department if you miss out on the marines. At 26 years old with no career started, you are most definitely running out of options. It gets harder and harder to get that entry level job. Gets harder to get any job as you age unless you have marketable skills AND experience. FWIW I can't see anything wrong with enlisting in the army, seems a solid alternative to the marines. You need a back up plan, and some plan for what you will do when you leave the marines.

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                      • Darius, I don't think you appreciate the volume of running done in military training or the effect that running with combat boots on concrete can have (or doing suicides in boots on a basketball court for that matter). And not just mere running in boots but running in gear with a rifle or doing ammo can sprints with a 30lb ammo can in each hand or fireman carries with 180lb man on your back... or how the marches with the ILBE packs can quickly turn into sprints... or the specific incident before my shins got real bad in which we were sprinting across the concrete parade deck holding our packs out in front of us.

                        Combine all that with insufficient rest and recovery and you have a recipe for broken bones.

                        I really don't think you appreciate just how tough it is on your body and how unsurprising my injuries are. Consider, I have no track, cross-country, or even school sports experience so I was never someone who had routinely clocked in significant weekly mileages for years. But even guys who had plenty of experience STILL had injuries.
                        "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                        • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                          Why wouldn't I just join the Philly PD if I wanted to do that? Why would I go to the city that Sloww lives in? *shudder*
                          Because apparently the Dallas area is one of the few areas in the nations that is actually hiring new police. The hiring orientations here attract a lot of out of state ex-cops. It's just a suggestion. There are a lot of police departments and the suburbs are always growing. I think it would be worth a shot.

                          Working as a Dallas cop would surely suck but on the up side, there are opportunities for decent cops to migrate to the suburbs after a few years on the force.

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                          • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                            Darius, I don't think you appreciate the volume of running done in military training or the effect that running with combat boots on concrete can have (or doing suicides in boots on a basketball court for that matter). And not just mere running in boots but running in gear with a rifle or doing ammo can sprints with a 30lb ammo can in each hand or fireman carries with 180lb man on your back... or how the marches with the ILBE packs can quickly turn into sprints... or the specific incident before my shins got real bad in which we were sprinting across the concrete parade deck holding our packs out in front of us.

                            Combine all that with insufficient rest and recovery and you have a recipe for broken bones.

                            I really don't think you appreciate just how tough it is on your body and how unsurprising my injuries are. Consider, I have no track, cross-country, or even school sports experience so I was never someone who had routinely clocked in significant weekly mileages for years. But even guys who had plenty of experience STILL had injuries.
                            It doesn't make any difference if anyone understands the severity of your course. The thing that matters is you getting a steady job and a decent career. The have been some people in this thread giving you good advice. You need a plan. You may have to take a career other than the marines. At 26 the clock is running out for you to start a career.

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                            • I'm not 26. I'm 25.
                              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                              • Oh. That makes all the difference.
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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