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 Originally posted by DanS View PostBugs: I have heard that there were about a million people -- including many clergy and religious -- who were killed for subversive thoughts and activities by the Nazis. That's what he's referring to.
 I think we can agree Naziism sucks- but to attribute the genocides to any perceived atheism in them makes about as much sense as attributing it to their taste in shoes. Especially in the light of the Church's actions during the Spanish Civil War.The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland
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 Originally posted by C0ckney View Postwell i'm talking about the questions that, by their very nature, can't be answered by science. that list doesn't change in size. also, the fact that a definitive answer to a question can't be found, doesn't mean that the issue can't be explored, discussed, thought out. that's why we have philosophy and indeed religion.
 
 anyway your claim was that human beings were not inherently religious, but since the dawn of time, man has always looked to for answers to questions beyond the physical world. even in the most isolated places on earth this was the case. 
 
 Indeed. Reason and science can't answer everything. Not all things can be fully explained. Society appears to be moving on from the modernist contention that everything can be answered, but of course, plenty of folks are not necessarily turning to religion for those unanswerables. I think they feel as though they are fine with never being able to answer the questions of why, or at least argue with each other using philosophical rather than theological concepts.
 
 They go in a different way than me (though I don't think, even through God, I can really answer everything - that'd be highly presumptuous of me that I know the entire will of God), but they acknowledge the unanswerable exists.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
 - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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 Has the Dalai Lama personally been responsible for covering up offences of paedophiles, vilified homosexuals, sabotaged attempts to reduce spread of AIDS, discriminated against women? 
 
 Call me when you have a female Lama. But of course, it's only wrong when it's Catholic. Here I thought you prided yourself on tolerance, but that's all a sham. Aren't you supposed to be better than the Pope? Sadly, I'm not seeing it.
 
 Mike, I hope you realise that it's folks exactly like you and your foaming at the mouth that brought me into Catholicism in the first place.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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 Everything will eventually be explained with science, that's a fact. Religion exists only to answer those questions that can't be answered right now that deal with creation and existence. Also, Islam is the greatest threat to science and modern civilization. So while you may not like Christianity, not one of you here can claim that it is a threat to your existence the way that Islam is. You target it because it's an easy target since they don't fight back and they respect free speech. Imagine if you lived in a Muslim dominated country, would you even exist in your current form right now? I think not.
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 Not really. Explanations don't have to be true, or even sane.The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland
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 oh really? what are the answers then oh wise one.Originally posted by MikeH View PostScience can answer those questions."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
 
 "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton
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 Exactly. Just look at the rate of human advancement over the past one hundred years and you will realize that everything will eventually be answered. The rate of advancement only increases over time. I wish I could see what things will be like 100-200 years from now.
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 You just need faith that the questions will be answered by scientific progress. "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben." "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
 Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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