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  • #46
    Re: So why don't atheists proselytize?

    Because it's impossible to have a rational discussion with religious people.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Maniac View Post
      Because it's impossible to have a rational discussion with religious people.
      Is it rational to believe that nothing is beyond human science?
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      • #48
        Originally posted by MikeH View Post
        You can't force someone to believe something. You can only force them to pretend to believe something, what's the point of that?
        George Orwell disagrees.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by MikeH View Post
          You can't force someone to believe something. You can only force them to pretend to believe something, what's the point of that?
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
            George Orwell disagrees.
            And he's right. Furthermore, if you can't convince the current generation, you can brainwash the children.
            If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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            • #51
              It's simple... they don't believe it's right to cram their own personal beliefs down other people's throats, like morons that belong to silly cults/religions.
              Public education, not cramming things down student's throats since 1927.
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              • #52
                Most people who believe in God, believe that He doesn't arrive through physical processes (but rather, defined them/imagined them) so most of your stated reasons for your thoughts about God, Mike, just don't make sense.

                God is, for most, inherently a metaphysical discussion.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by MikeH View Post
                  I don't see why it's not a scientific debate. It should be.
                  The Christian (and most major religions) definition of God is inherently not one that can be probed with our scientific abilities.

                  That is why it is not a scientific debate. There are no handles.

                  I will agree that some descriptions can be disproved... for example, with a time machine Christianity could be disproved.

                  But as for the existence of God, no. I don't see how it would be possible or a reasonable area of (scientific) discussion.

                  Even if we found aliens that said that they communicated with Moses et al. and started our religions/etc, wouldn't provide any evidence that God doesn't exist. It would just destroy credence in some religions.

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                  • #54
                    Irrelevant active carbohydrate reactions are not worth the entropy expenditure.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
                      George Orwell disagrees.
                      I think he dosen't really grasp human nature. Its perfectly possible to simultaneously to believe two or more contradictory things. Or even blatantly false things.

                      To quickly disprove him, the illusion of group think can easily be used to convince a individual to believe something that is false. And we can actually check this.

                      MRIs are awesome that way I really don't understand why they are unadmissable in court
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by MikeH View Post
                        The burden of proof is not on athiests though. There's no logical reason to even need to attempt do disprove God unless there was the slightest bit of evidence to support there being one/some.
                        Yeah its its like someone claiming "you can't prove its certain that group differences exist, all the evidence presented merely points to the fact its likley so until you find a way to prove I'll continue to believe in perfect biological egalitarianism because to do otherwise is immoral and would cause people to behave badly. "

                        Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                        The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                        The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
                          I think he dosen't really grasp human nature.
                          So says the Nazi
                          If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by MORON View Post
                            Irrelevant active carbohydrate reactions are not worth the entropy expenditure.
                            Who is this guy?
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                            • #59
                              rly

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                                So says the Nazi
                                Slanderer.

                                Anyway even if I was a Nazi, those guys where nearer to getting "human nature" right than Communists.
                                Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                                The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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