16-Year-Old Sailor Feared Lost at Sea

[Ben Kenobi]

I find it fascinating you refuse to have the government pay literally to save someone's life, but here you are happy to have the government pay any sum of money to rescue this girl, even though there are private methods of rescue available to her wealthy family.

I don't expect landlubbers to understand how the mariner's code works.

[Asher]

Mariner's code says nothing about government fiscal responsibility.

[Ben Kenobi]

The government is not a fountain of free money.

True, but they are doing the right and honourable thing by rescuing her.

How is there any charge to the government if those involved refuse to accept payment for their services?

[Asher]

True, but they are doing the right and honourable thing by rescuing her.

How is there any charge to the government if those involved refuse to accept payment for their services?

No one is charging any money to anyone for anything involved with the search & rescue operation?

Cite.

I'd read that the A330 was chartered, not that it was volunteered or loaned. That costs money.

[Ben Kenobi]

I guess seeing as you don't make any income, you don't really care how much tax money is spent on things.

You don't think I care about taxpayer funded abortion?

I don't see why I should support a state that believes it's ok to pay to kill babies.

When you start making money, Ben, and you start seeing how much the government takes from you...perhaps you'll understand why so many people don't like the government spending large sums of money on subsidizing an individual's stupidity.

I do, which is why I am disgusted by this Canadian government.

[Ben Kenobi]

I have yet to see anything where Australia says they do not expect compensation for the money spent.

They expect reciprocity. They expect that other nations will foot the bill for their own sailors. That, in and of itself, is compensation.

It ultimately would not surprise me if Australia did not request payment, because they are perhaps the dumbest government of any developed nation. As we've established on this site many times.

They are also debt free as opposed to us. You know why we'd never hear about a Canadian doing this? Because they'd expect the government to foot the bill for them.

[Asher]

I do, which is why I am disgusted by this Canadian government.

So you're fine with ridiculous wastes of money that are essentially personal subsidies for stupid people, but you don't like paying taxes.

True republican.

Increase expenditures, complain about and reduce taxes.

[Asher]

They expect reciprocity. They expect that other nations will foot the bill for their own sailors. That, in and of itself, is compensation.

You going to cite this already?

I need something explicitly saying Australia is absorbing 100% of the costs associated with search & rescue.

And if I were Australian, I'd be pissed right now. As would any Australian who values government accountability.

[Ben Kenobi]

I'd read that the A330 was chartered, not that it was volunteered or loaned. That costs money.

Quantas declined to discuss the arrangement.

[Asher]

Quantas declined to discuss the arrangement.

So you assumed that means it was donated 100% free?

God ****ing damnit, Ben. You think if they gave it away for free they would keep that to themselves?

[Ben Kenobi]

So you're fine with ridiculous wastes of money that are essentially personal subsidies for stupid people, but you don't like paying taxes.

I think 1 million to rescue the life of a girl is nothing compared to the billions that we waste on pork like official bilingualism.

Increase expenditures, complain about and reduce taxes.

Right, a million here and a million there, and pretty soon, you get a backbencher's salary.

[Ben Kenobi]

God ****ing damnit, Ben. You think if they gave it away for free they would keep that to themselves?

I do. Some people find this whole 'compensation' nonsense to be rather distasteful. You do what has to be done. Then you worry about paying for it later.

[Asher]

I think 1 million to rescue the life of a girl is nothing compared to the billions that we waste on pork like official bilingualism.

Right, a million here and a million there, and pretty soon, you get a backbencher's salary.

What a ****ing terrible right-winger.

You're just a ****ing theocratic douchebag. You're not right wing, you're just a selfish Christian looking to force your morals on others.

A million dollars is a lot of money. The attitude that it's nothing because the budget is "X" big is precisely why the government is so wasteful. No true right-winger shares your disgusting attitude.

Save her, bill her. Why should she NOT pay ?

[Ben Kenobi]

So when is asher going to cut government funding for abortion, to the tune of roughly 100 million a year not including building costs?

[Asher]

I do. Some people find this whole 'compensation' nonsense to be rather distasteful. You do what has to be done. Then you worry about paying for it later.

Okay. Holy ****. Last post from me with you on this.

You think a public company donated the use of a $400-500M jet to fly ~7500km each way COMPLETELY FOR FREE...and then declined to mention to the media they donated the plane for free and great PR?

Moron. Moron. Moron.