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Ben's argument:
1. People suck
2. ?
3. Therefore God exists!
4. ?
5. Therefore I should be a good person
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Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
2. How do I know they suck? Because I know of the Good.
3. Where does the Good come from if people suck?
4. the Good must come from God.
Scouse Git (2)La Fayette Adam SmithSolomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
So it's ok to kill people and eat them? Animals do that all the time. People make tasty snacks that can fill you right up.
Scouse Git (2)La Fayette Adam SmithSolomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
His only reason for engaging in these discussions is to troll people. Don't waste your time.
I remember how angry you got in one of these discussions when I missed a post and the thread had fallen off the front page.
This actually was an interesting discussion. Sadly you guys are outta ammo.
Why is it when animals act in a moral fashion, it's an argument from nature, but when they act in an immoral fashion, it's not an argument against morality from nature?
Nature is beyond morality. It just is. Arguing that morality is from nature, is no different from saying that Chlorine is a virtuous element.
Scouse Git (2)La Fayette Adam SmithSolomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
I'm not sure how my response is in anyway a troll. It's a straight up challenge. You either deal with it or go to your fallback of "it's a troll."
No skin off my nose.
FWIW, if I disagree with you, I explain why, and try to talk through it. I've never called you a troll for arguing. I always argue back.
Scouse Git (2)La Fayette Adam SmithSolomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
I remember how angry you got in one of these discussions when I missed a post and the thread had fallen off the front page.
This actually was an interesting discussion. Sadly you guys are outta ammo.
Why is it when animals act in a moral fashion, it's an argument from nature, but when they act in an immoral fashion, it's not an argument against morality from nature?
Nature is beyond morality. It just is. Arguing that morality is from nature, is no different from saying that Chlorine is a virtuous element.
Hahaha, good troll. You argued God must exist because you have a sense of right and wrong, then after I point out that evolution can explain a sense of right and wrong, you switch over to saying morality somehow transcends the natural world.
Ben's new argument:
1. People suck
2. as a matter of fact
3. Facts are established by decree
4. God exists
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