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WHY is Ben trying to argue that genes don't affect intelligence? I mean, are people really only smarter than dogs/dolphins/earthworms/etc. because of environmental factors?
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Not all the Jews.Originally posted by Albert Speer View PostA eugenics program that favors the Jews. Now I've seen everything!
Just the Askenazi ones, Sephardim too to a much lesser extent. The other middle eastern Jews who are either like whites or sometimes have a slightly lower average don't factor in.
Jews are really remarkable, some typical "Jewish" diseases are often correlated with higher IQ. This creates similar situations to sickle cell anemia where the gene is good to have if its recesive so lots of the population have it but it dosen't spread to everyone or even the majority.
There are examples where one copy makes you smarter, two copies create a high risk of putting you in a wheelchair. Things like this are sure tale sings of recent very agressive selection for inteligence, nature hasn't had the time to work out the kinks.Last edited by Heraclitus; June 9, 2010, 17:33.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Heraclitus assumes a few things:
Human Cognitive ability is a single general entity, depictable as a single number.
Cognitive ability has a heritability of between 40 and 80 percent and is therefore primarily genetically based.
IQ is essentially immutable, fixed over the course of a life span.
IQ tests measure how "smart" or "intelligent" people are and are capable of rank ordering people in a linear order.
IQ tests can measure this accurately.
IQ tests are not biased with regard to race ethnic group or socioeconomic status.
none of those are a given."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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This is a terrible argument.WHY is Ben trying to argue that genes don't affect intelligence? I mean, are people really only smarter than dogs/dolphins/earthworms/etc. because of environmental factors?
We have bigger brains and they work in a different way.
Why on earth would differentiation between two people have any similarity between the differences between dogs and people? Those are structural differences, it has nothing to do with genes.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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No they are smarter because God gives them a soul.Originally posted by gribbler View Post
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Listen, I don't feel like arguing those points right now, you have a few not so bright things in the list, but I will say this:Originally posted by Albert Speer View Post
Even if you don't equate IQ with inteligence. IQ correlates wonderfully with lots of stuff like health, academic succes and even financial succes. It also correlates quite well with SAT and LSAT.
Nothing of what I said is contraversial.
Isn't it therefore obvious why the Lesbian kids are doing better? At least enough to compare them with straight couples that did the same and where just as educated?Last edited by Heraclitus; June 9, 2010, 17:39.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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See just like macro and micro evolution then?Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
Anycase Ben there are structual, size and even body-to-brain mass ratio diferences between people.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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We have bigger, different brains because of our DNA. Structural differences result from genes. And genes vary within a species. There's no perfect measure of intelligence but it's reasonable for lesbians to pick a donor who seems gifted.Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostComment
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Heraclitus:
I just skimmed the article, but the study seemed to only be concerned with psychological well-being. I don't see the relevance of IQ. (though I'm sure those kids were smarter than average just as much as their more well-adjusted than average just because they came from the cream of the crop as far as sperm donors go)"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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I don't believe Catholics take issue with evolution.Originally posted by Heraclitus View PostSee just like macro and micro evolution then?
Anycase Ben there are structual, size and even body-to-brain mass ratio diferences between people."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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What's the gene for intelligence then?We have bigger, different brains because of our DNA. Structural differences result from genes. And genes vary within a species. There's no perfect measure of intelligence but it's reasonable for lesbians to pick a donor who seems gifted.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Exactly. So the link you seem to make between wealth and intelligence here is retarded:Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
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The article dosen't say anything about eugenics. As I've quoted before they've come up with silly explanations.Originally posted by Albert Speer View Post
Anycase I see you agree what is the most likley explanation.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Yes, but none of these correlate wrt to "intelligence" as so defined.Anycase Ben there are structual, size and even body-to-brain mass ratio diferences between people.
All these explain why we think differently from Dogs, etc, but not differences between people.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Given how complicated the brain is I imagine many, many genes have an effect on intelligence.Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostComment
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