Video on how to get a woman?

[Jon Miller]

Things that have happened to virgins when having sex for the first time (and were concerning to them):

Losing hardness.
Cumming very very quickly (even when not completely naked).

This happens to you every time? Of course not. (BTW, such things don't happen to everyone who was a virgin, but can happen. And aren't likely to be admitted by many guys.)

We try to convince, not trick. Same as you are doing.

JM

[Heraclitus]

We're trying to help Albert have better relationships, because we think it'll be better for him.

I am not religious, if it's relevant.

Good. Then stop brining in moralistic judgment and stick to arguing about what works and what dosen't.

[MikeH]

Perhaps I'm biased. I noticed no difference after I lost my virginity and all my male friends agree.

What, mentally? Most people become more confident with the opposite sex. Certainly most virgins aren't technically very proficient.

I have to go to bed. Night.

[Heraclitus]

Things that have happened to virgins when having sex for the first time (and were concerning to them):

Losing hardness.
Cumming very very quickly (even when not completely naked).

This happens to you every time? Of course not. (BTW, such things don't happen to everyone who was a virgin, but can happen. And aren't likely to be admitted by many guys.)

We try to convince, not trick. Same as you are doing.

JM

Ok, I apologize. It seems I was mislead by the frequent appeals to morality.

[Heraclitus]

What, mentally? Most people become more confident with the opposite sex. Certainly most virgins aren't technically very proficient.

I have to go to bed. Night.

It was part of a larger procces. The effects only became apparent later as I continued to have sex.


Perhaps my experience would have been different if my first sexual encounter was not part of a string of encounters in a relationship.


Good night. I hope my harsh language did not offend, this is one of the better debates I've had in some time (even though now I realize I failed to comprehend what it was about).

[Jon Miller]

Can you explain how love is anything but a shared emotion (experience, way of seeing the world and behaving) between two people?

I was recently reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicist_and_Christian . Very interesting, even though I don't agree with all of it. It is about science and physics and would be interesting to a person who was interested in how science is done, although it is written by a (liberal) christian with that perspective.

One of the ideas discussed is that knowinig someone, having a relationship with them, is very different than knowing about someone. That it is a different type of knowledge, a type that only exists when two beings meet and have a relationship.

Not saying that I agree with entirely with this idea. But I do agree that love is not just a shared emotional experience. Comparable with joy over the US tying England in the Football match.

JM
(the writer is actually pretty interesting, was a well known physicist and became a theologian)

[Jon Miller]

Ok, I apologize. It seems I was mislead by the frequent appeals to morality.

Morality is important.

To some atheists too, it isn't just a religious thing.

Nothing wrong with an appeal to morality.

JM

[Alexander's Horse]

don't know about video but something inflatable might suit your needs

[Imran Siddiqui]

tricking or misleading other people to be moral by my standards=bad

Albert appears to be moral by normal standards, ie: the good ole' "treat others as you'd like to be treated".

It's not my fault if you have a warped sense of morality.

[Imran Siddiqui]

HUMANS ARE ANIMALS. DO YOU THINK ANIMALS ARE INCAPABLE OF ALTRUISM? OF TOUGHT? OF SELFAWARENES? Don't blame me for a deterministic universe.

Humans are far, far, far more than just animals. Stop trying to devalue humanity.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Not saying that I agree with entirely with this idea. But I do agree that love is not just a shared emotional experience. Comparable with joy over the US tying England in the Football match.

Indeed. It is difficult to fully explain, but it is an utterly transcendent feeling. If you merely describe true relationship love as a "shared emotional experience" you are missing the point of the matter. It is far more powerful than that (as can be shown by what people do and the lengths people go through as a result of love).

[Heraclitus]

Humans are far, far, far more than just animals. Stop trying to devalue humanity.

When did humans become much much more than animals? If so there must have been a point in our evolution where we where just a little bit more than animals. And if this is so surley there must be a animal out there that is just a tiny bit more than just an animal. And there has to be an anlimal that is just a little bit less than just an animal.


You aren't speaking about humans not being animals. You are speaking against humans being like "average" animals. I have not said this.

[Heraclitus]

Albert appears to be moral by normal standards, ie: the good ole' "treat others as you'd like to be treated".

It's not my fault if you have a warped sense of morality.

He asked a question. I don't know how you like to be treated but I like factual answers to my questions. I appreciate people giving me autonomy in my moral decisions.


Having no choice but to be good is not being good at all [yes I know this gets messy when combined with my belief in no such thing as free will but I'd need to write up an essay to explain that]

[Drake Tungsten]

We're trying to help Albert have better relationships, because we think it'll be better for him.

Speak for yourself. I'm trying to get Alby laid, and step one towards that goal is to stop listening to dorks like Heraclitus/aneeshm and avoid getting obsessed with bull**** "game" techniques.

[Heraclitus]

Indeed. It is difficult to fully explain, but it is an utterly transcendent feeling. If you merely describe true relationship love as a "shared emotional experience" you are missing the point of the matter. It is far more powerful than that (as can be shown by what people do and the lengths people go through as a result of love).

I can put chemicals in your brain that will make you go through anything.

Does that make those chemicals transcendent or merley a brainhack?