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  • you really aren't getting my point
    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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    • FWIW, the "slippery slope" argument is the most limp one in the history of the internet.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
        That's how the law started and look where it is now.

        SLIPPERY. SLOPE.
        I'd rather have CGIs in porn that are indistinguishable from children be illegal than let people provide a financial incentive to exploit children. And I don't see a slippery slope leading much farther than that.

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        • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
          you really aren't getting my point
          No valid point can be predicated on the "slippery slope" fallacy.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • Originally posted by Asher View Post
            FWIW, the "slippery slope" argument is the most limp one in the history of the internet.
            that isn't really a particularly strong rejection of it. History demonstrates it to be an absolutely true phenomenon.
            If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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            • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
              that isn't really a particularly strong rejection of it. History demonstrates it to be an absolutely true phenomenon.
              Hehehe....sure, okay.

              Slippery slope means gay marriage leads to polygamy leads to child marriage leads to marrying goats.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                Hehehe....sure, okay.

                Slippery slope means gay marriage leads to polygamy leads to child marriage leads to marrying goats.
                Different slippery slope
                If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                  Hehehe....sure, okay.

                  Slippery slope means gay marriage leads to polygamy leads to child marriage leads to marrying goats.
                  On the other hand, outlawing gay marriage leads to a Christian theocracy. It's actually physically impossible for government policy to be anywhere in the middle on any issue.

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                  • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                    Different slippery slope
                    Different slope, same fallacy.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • HC's slippery slope argument sucks not because there isn't one, but because it requires us to permit actively, substantially harmful behavior (as in practice it is impossible to disentangle production from distribution or possession), and therefore the only proper policy is to police the line well.

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                      • Originally posted by Ecofarm View Post
                        Prove that some games, in fact, omit Australia for evaluation/release.
                        Manhunt 2

                        Never submitted for fear of rejection.

                        Just to clarify some things. Office of Film & Literature Classification is responsible for classification of all media. For games they use ESRB as the baseline and alter as required.

                        The classification scale is:
                        E - Exempt (educational, Govt, etc)
                        C - Children's shows
                        G - General viewing
                        PG - Parent Guidance
                        M - Mature
                        MA15+ - 15 years or older
                        R18+ - Restricted to 18 years +
                        X18+ - X-rated media (only application in Canberra and Northern Territory)
                        RC - Refused Classification

                        Computer media does not have R18+ (or X18+). Thus anything that does not fit into MA15+ is RC. The South Australian Attorney General had veto power over addition of the classification as he was a whiney extremist Christian wanker. He's been voted out of office in last month's elections purely on this issue.

                        A new AG in South Australia has declared interest in hearing the arguments (where the previous wanker refused to even listen to the argument). At the start of the year 100's of thousands of petition signatures were submitted to Federal Parliament to get them to legislate the classification table for all media. That's "on the agenda".

                        The faster we get rid of all the wanker extremist Christian Labor party Govt's the better.

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                        • Dale, that's listed on the wiki site. Which implies all would be.


                          Anyway, I starting to think this forum is fkd up. A bunch of grown men on a website for a game kids play advocating simulated child pornography. I may have had enough of this place. I thought everyone just kinda wandered in here from the strategy forums and liked to debate. I'm starting to think otherwise.
                          Everybody knows...Democracy...One of Us Cannot be Wrong...War...Fanatics

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                          • Originally posted by Ecofarm View Post
                            Anyway, I starting to think this forum is fkd up. A bunch of grown men on a website for a game kids play advocating simulated child pornography. I may have had enough of this place. I thought everyone just kinda wandered in here from the strategy forums and liked to debate. I'm starting to think otherwise.
                            Maybe you are the one that is "fkd up"... Once again, just like the last gaming forum you got thrown off of, you make weird and unreal claims about the members. You have no clue and all you can do blame others for the fact that you simply don't understand anything.

                            If you have had "enough of this place" feel free to "think otherwise" and just leave. Your lies and BS won't be missed. Go to WPC... I'm sure they will love your act. Maybe you can make it three for three.
                            Keep on Civin'
                            RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                            • Who is advocating simulated child porn? That's about as honest as claiming pro-choice people advocate abortion.

                              Bye, pedotard. Thanks for informing us that Civilization is "for kids".

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                              • to be fair to ecofarm its easy to lose perception when talking about child abuse. my gut reaction its even worse then murder. obviously it isnt.

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