Australia: Nanny State again

[Asher]

If the girl is portrayed as underage, of course it should be illegal. I don't know how you got anything else from my post.

So you think it should be illegal for a legally adult woman to pretend to be an underage schoolgirl with her legally adult boyfriend in the privacy of their own bedroom. Did I get that right?

[Ecofarm]

I wonder how many of you would be willing to hold your position in the light of real life. Probably none, because you know that images of child sexual abuse are just as repulsive, inappropriate (and perhaps even dangerous), more so, for most of us, as slander (which obviously many of you have no problem with) and hate speech.

[Asher]

I would take this position in real life. It's the logical position. You're being an unreasonable, illogical douche about it.

I find child porn repulsive, and it should be illegal. I don't think drawings should be illegal. Nor prose. Nor poetry.

[giblets]

Nothing should be illegal unless there's a victim. If someone has sick fantasies that's their business, as long as they don't act on them.

[Ecofarm]

There's no direct victim to hate speech. Should it be legal?

Nevermind, talking to that idiot doesn't do anyone any good.


You all just have your little "yay imitation child porn!" party without me.

[giblets]

I thought the point behind making hate speech illegal was that it incites hate crime.

[Asher]

So you think it should be illegal for a legally adult woman to pretend to be an underage schoolgirl with her legally adult boyfriend in the privacy of their own bedroom. Did I get that right?

Well?

[Hauldren Collider]

I imagine allowing the sale of such porn would contribute to the demand for said exploitation.

Missing the point.

[Asher]

I thought the point behind making hate speech illegal was that it incites hate crime.

Indeed. Hate speech is not illegal in Canada or the USA, last I checked.

Canada makes it illegal to make speeches to incite hate crime. It's an important distinction lost on some people.

It's not illegal to say "I hate gays because they are ******s."
It is illegal to say "We should pound the gay out of ******s"

[Hauldren Collider]

The porn is an artifact of the exploitation.

Asher is also missing the point.

[Hauldren Collider]

Indeed. Hate speech is not illegal in Canada or the USA, last I checked.

Canada makes it illegal to make speeches to incite hate crime. It's an important distinction lost on some people.

Often including the government, which is why I favor a strong first amendment.

[Ecofarm]

Well?

I think ANY depiction of child sexual abuse, in any (entertainment) form, should be illegal. I add 'entertainment' because there may be needs in a court case or in training for police.


Clear?

[giblets]

Missing the point.

Are you saying it should be illegal to sell, if the making of it violated a child?

[Asher]

I think ANY depiction of child sexual abuse, in any (entertainment) form, should be illegal.

Clear?

So, you are saying the imaginings that exist only in the minds of two consenting adults in the privacy of their own bedroom should be illegal.

Just wanted to be sure you were that crazy.

[Asher]

Asher is also missing the point.

What point is that? If everyone is missing the point, perhaps you're not making the point.