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  • The Ohio Sovereignty Amendment. Or, What The ****ing ****?

    From the Columbus Dispatch...

    A ruling by a state board yesterday cleared the way for a citizens group to begin collecting petition signatures to put on the fall ballot an issue that supporters say would rein in government gone astray.

    Among other things, the Ohio Sovereignty Amendment would allow juries to nullify laws; expand the right to bear arms and maintain militias; permit the recall of elected officials by petition signatures alone; ban federal enforcement of laws except through a county sheriff; and require that all public school operations through the 12th grade be regulated at the district level only.

    "I think it's about time we get back on track because the government is running our country into the ground," said Michael Young of the Peoples Constitution Coalition of Ohio, which is seeking the amendment. "It's always been the duty of the people to hold government accountable, but we've failed in that duty."

    The Ohio Ballot Board voted 3-1 to certify the proposed constitutional amendment as a single issue, allowing the group to start circulating petition forms with the goal of putting the issue on the Nov. 2 ballot. The board did not determine whether the proposal would be constitutional or legal.

    The group must collect 402,275 valid signatures of registered voters by June 30, including signatures from at least 44 of the 88 counties in Ohio equaling 5 percent of the 2006 vote for governor in each of those counties.

    Young, a construction worker from Mount Vernon, said if the coalition is unable to get the issue on the fall ballot, it will try next year.

    He said the group, which needed four attempts before the Ohio attorney general's office certified a summary of the proposed amendment, hopes to have thousands of volunteers statewide circulating petition forms.

    The ballot board's role was to determine whether the proposal was a single issue or needed to be broken up into different measures.

    Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, who leads the board, questioned whether voters would have difficulty deciding the measure as a single ballot issue if they supported some aspects of the proposal but not others.

    But in the end, Brunner voted to certify the proposal as a single issue. Board member Rebecca L. Egelhoff dissented without comment.

    Young and others argued that it was one issue because all of the provisions fall under a common theme of defining state sovereignty and the mechanisms for preserving it.

    Last month, the Ohio Supreme Court overturned a ballot board decision to split an unrelated proposal into two issues, saying as long as the subject matter "bears some reasonable relationship to a single general object or purpose, the board must certify its approval of the amendment as written without dividing it."

    To read the proposed Ohio Sovereignty Amendment, go to: https://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/uplo...rtLetterAG.pdf.



    Your mission, should you choose to accept it:

    --Convince me that passage of this amendment will not result in Ohio becoming (more of) a national laughingstock,

    --Convince me that this amendment will not get laughed out of court the second it is challenged, should it get passed,

    --Convince me that these sorts of issues were not decided by the Civil War, and that these crackerass crackers aren't fantasizing about a reprise.


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    "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

  • #2
    A lot of people think that the states don't have enough ability to check the federal government.They might have a point. This seems like a rather radical manifestation of that. I'm not 100% confident that the 17th amendment was good, but I dunno.
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    • #3
      Will these idiots demolish the federal highways that go through Ohio should this proposal pass?
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • #4
        Random parts of it may be Constitutional. The general thrust of the document is not.

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        • #5
          You should see the thrusting Asher and MRT were doing in the liberal arts economics thread.
          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MrFun View Post
            You should see the thrusting Asher and MRT were doing in the liberal arts economics thread.
            HIYO!
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            • #7
              A while back there was a Russian social scientist tpye guy who predicted the US would split sometime in the near future. Is that due yet or what?

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              • #8
                Our nation will last for a thousand years.

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                • #9
                  Smaller governments challenging bigger ones.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
                    HIYO!
                    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Riesstiu IV View Post
                      Our nation will last for a thousand years.
                      Mine is about two thousand years old.

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                      • #12
                        --Convince me that passage of this amendment will not result in Ohio becoming (more of) a national laughingstock,
                        Personally, I think it's important for yankeestani states to pass this because a federal government that ignores federalism hurts everybody.

                        --Convince me that this amendment will not get laughed out of court the second it is challenged, should it get passed,
                        It's constitutional. Tenth amendment.

                        --Convince me that these sorts of issues were not decided by the Civil War, and that these crackerass crackers aren't fantasizing about a reprise.
                        Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled."
                        The civil war did nothing to change this. The civil war decided that certain issues were the provenance of the feds, not that the states had no power to make certain decisions for themselves.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kitschum View Post
                          Mine is about two thousand years old.
                          Sweden was not a nation two thousand years ago.

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                          • #14
                            I'm confused by the thread title. Too many "*"'s.

                            What are you trying to say Guy?
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                            • #15
                              He's saying, "**** this ****ing sh**. We are so ****ed."
                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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