The Ohio Sovereignty Amendment. Or, What The ****ing ****?

[Guynemer]

[Theben]

Ohio is already the #1 destination in the country for smugglers trafficking in kidnapped women & girls. Be thankful that Kansas, Texas, and Mississippi still rank higher on the list due to obvious stupidity and/or flaws.

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Yet another reason not to visit Ohio

[Dinner]

The idea of recalling an official who won an election based just on a few people signing a form is retarded unless 50%+1 of the people in the district sign it. Also wtf is up with expanding militias? The last thing we need are more militia nuts running around with guns.

[Heraclitus]

Random parts of it may be Constitutional. The general thrust of the document is not.

Still would be interesting if they could pull this off.

[Heraclitus]

Also wtf is up with expanding militias? The last thing we need are more militia nuts running around with guns.

Militia nuts are a minor nuisance that is dragged up for political purposes. Like terrorism, I'm still waiting for humans to grow a brain and declare a war on car crashes, it would be cheaper than a war and it would save more American lives.

[Wezil]

They'll get to that right after the war on drugs, the war on poverty and the war on obesity (and any other ongoing conflicts I may have forgotten).

[Japher]

I know California passed a state sovereignty amendment last year, and a lot of other states have this already should they choose to exercise it is another thing (or, if they could).

IMO, it is legally enforceable, if not just debatable. Basically, I don't care.

LINK

State sovereignty is a legal principle that US states have the right to prevent the application of programs and regulations of the Federal government. The basis is the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the US Constitution, which reserve to the states respectively, or to the people, all powers and rights not delegated to the Federal government by the Constitution and thereby prohibited to the states (e.g. the interstate commerce clause).

How this principle is applied depends on whether the US can be shown to be applying laws and rules that would contravene these rights, i.e. exceeding the mandate of the Constitution. Because the control of "interstate commerce" is granted to the Congress by Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, courts have ruled that state or local governments may be prevented from enacting laws affecting commerce. This principle is the "dormant commerce clause" and has been used to prevent states from discriminatory commercial practices.

In the legal battle over enacting a national health care plan, the application of the dormant commerce clause is a major counter-argument against legislation by several states under the principle of state sovereignty.

[Kitschum]

Sweden was not a nation two thousand years ago.

Is this going to turn into a semantic argument?

Tacitus, c100 AD:

Immediately adjoining are the Rugians and Lemovians upon the coast of the ocean, and of these several nations the characteristics are a round shield, a short sword and kingly government. Next occur the communities of the Suiones, situated in the ocean itself; and besides their strength in men and arms, very powerful at sea. The form of their vessels varies thus far from ours, that they have prows at each end, so as to be always ready to row to shore without turning nor are they moved by sails, nor on their sides have benches of oars placed, but the rowers ply here and there in all parts of the ship alike, as in some rivers is done, and change their oars from place to place, just as they shift their course hither or thither. To wealth also, amongst them, great veneration is paid, and thence a single ruler governs them, without all restriction of power, and exacting unlimited obedience. Neither here, as amongst other nations of Germany, are arms used indifferently by all, but shut up and warded under the care of a particular keeper, who in truth too is always a slave: since from all sudden invasions and attacks from their foes, the ocean protects them: besides that armed bands, when they are not employed, grow easily debauched and tumultuous.

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/tacitus1.html