How likley is that China will get a genetic edge?

[OzzyKP]

China will face a rapid switch in cultural Norms due to the Fact that there are far more chinese Men than Women. The most acceptable solution will be to search for brides in the Asia Rim, this will lead to an influx of cultural values which will probably be ( in westerners eyes) more backwards.

This will pose an incredible challenge to chinese society.

That's one solution.

The other consequence, in theory, is that if there are a bunch of frustrated single males in society they could be more likely to agitate for change/revolution.

War would be a good way to get rid of some excess men.

[Drake Tungsten]

Gassing Russians is evil, trying to create better human beings is not.

What's the difference?

[Heraclitus]

I think white people's clear genetic superiority is safe for a while, what with black people and terrorists being inherently too stupid to do anything right but breed, but it's probably not a bad idea to spend at least a few hours each week trembling under your bed in fear that at some point, the yellow man might catch up.

Terrorist is a bit insluting. Middle Easterners are more than capable of maintaining a civilization and even developing.

Also where is this Yellow peril mocking coming from, don't we live in a world where the second largest economy is Yellow? I don't mind the Japanese developing the next man, what I mind is a authoritarian regime. I would be arguing for the invasion of North Korea of they suddenly started a human genetic engineering program. China isn't crazy but their system still makes me uncomfortable.

I don't even get how a Slav can be a Nazi.

It seems I didn't get the proper emphasis. I'm approaching this from a transhumanist perspective. I'm equally concerned that the group that makes the first AI will have crazy values. Do you really want an authoritarian regime deciding what the next humans or inteligence will be like?

[Heraclitus]

:facepalm: Drake, can't Slavs fight for women's rights or campaign against smoking too? The fact that Nazis practiced eugenics doesn't make eugenics evil. Gassing Russians is evil, trying to create better human beings is not.

Stop your fascist apologist rants. I bet next you'll be arguing likling dogs and being a vegeterian dosen't make you just like Hitler.

[Ben Kenobi]

This will lead to the periodic collapse of China, as we've seen in many other periods of time. I don't see how it will lead to better results or better people. Think North Korea, you'll see many of the gains over the last while fall away.

[Elok]

Gassing Russians is evil, trying to create better human beings is not.

What's the difference?

QFT. Also, Riesstiu has something akin to a point. I think. Eugenics assumes that people know what is good for them. Note that many purebred dogs are less healthy than mutts...

And again, why on earth would anybody think the Chinese have the ability to control who bones who?

[Theben]

I don't even get how a Slav can be a Nazi.

I assume that's a weak troll.

[Darius871]

what will Homo Americanus look like

Could it get any worse? www.peopleofwalmart.com

[Dinner]

We're doomed.

Edit: Though the couple in the furries outfits made me smile.

[Drake Tungsten]

I assume that's a weak troll.

No. Heraclitus is both a Slav and a Nazi and I don't understand how that happens.

[Riesstiu IV]

Not even a real Slav but a Balkanoid. They are like the Welsh of Eastern Europe.

[Drake Tungsten]

South Slavs are still Slavs, albeit a debased form of an already ****ty people.

[Theben]

No. Heraclitus is both a Slav and a Nazi and I don't understand how that happens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usta%C5%A1e

[Heraclitus]

Seriusly where are these Nazi accusations coming from? I find them insulting since I have nothing against Jews, especially Askenazi who have the highest IQ. I really wish I could land an Askenazi girl and have kids with her Anyway why is everyone here just focusing on eugenics and ignoring genetic engineering? I specifically started the OP with talk about how China is becoming a scientific superpower with more pragmatic bioethics and how this means they will probably get results first.


Also this stupid talk of dog breeding. Are you guys seriusly ingoring the many succeses of animal husbandry? Sure many side effects pop up but they nearly always acheive their objectives. People seem to forget that even many dog breeds where bred for a purpose and are better at them than baseline dogs or wolves. They just seem to remember the freakish dogs breeds that where bread because they where freaks and looked "interesting".

[Heraclitus]

Also to the guys who think China is unlikley to influence breeding. It is sort of a semibelivable urban legend that Jao Mings parents where pressured to procreate with each other.