OMG We have a martyr

[Ben Kenobi]

BK is the only person on the site who would defend this.

Got anymore filthy lies?

http://apolyton.net/forums/showpost.php?p=5611566&postcount=32

This is what I posted back in May.

[Asher]

I want to see people defend the fellow who gunned down a prolifer.

No one did.

Oh, this is just Roeder. I already gave my thoughts on him when Tiller had been shot.

Good way to get double the condemnation Asher. Why don't you dig up the thread from before?

Here is your post:

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=186027

This is the first since Slepian in '94.

Secondly, we don't yet know who is responsible. So go ahead and rant off about Christians, but it's clear that the shooter wasn't a member of George Tiller's church.

Unless you were personally involved I cannot see how you have enough information to conclude that the shooter was a Christian.

Secondly, my own opinion on this matter is to look at Barnard Nathanson, who did just as many, if not more abortions then George Tiller. George Tiller has been robbed of his opportunity for repentence. It's not the role of any one of us to act as judge and jury for the life of another.

Tiller's fate is in God's hands now. Let us all reflect on the consequences of the statement that God himself is just, whereas man is not.

I suppose that is a condemnation. If a bit squirmy, especially the bit about him being a Christian. We all know now he was a born-again Christian.

[Asher]

Got anymore filthy lies?

http://apolyton.net/forums/showpost.php?p=5611566&postcount=32

This is what I posted back in May.

would, not did.

You seemed far more focused on the loss of his possibility for repentance than you were the loss of his life. Speaks volumes about your priorities.

[DanS]

If only birth control were more easily available

Birth control isn't easily available now? You want they should stuff your pockets with condoms at every street corner?

[MrFun]

Private pharmacies can choose to deny contraceptives for women if they want to.

[Ben Kenobi]

If a bit squirmy, especially the bit about him being a Christian. We all know now he was a born-again Christian.

At the time we knew very little. Roeder hadn't even been named yet.

Anyways, thanks for retracting your comment. I don't know how I can be anymore clearer. It's not our place to decide whether someone should live or die. That's God's decision.

[Ben Kenobi]

You seemed far more focused on the loss of his possibility for repentance than you were the loss of his life. Speaks volumes about your priorities.

Well sure. Eternal punishment in Hell vs Purgatory and Heaven. It's the most important question for all of us.

[MrFun]

Asher, you lied to me about having BK on Ignore.

[Asher]

At the time we knew very little. Roeder hadn't even been named yet.

It's pretty much a slam-dunk bet that the nut who did this was a Christian. Born-again Christian, even. They're crazy like that.

Anyways, thanks for retracting your comment. I don't know how I can be anymore clearer. It's not our place to decide whether someone should live or die. That's God's decision.

So you do not support the death penalty?

[Asher]

Asher, you lied to me about having BK on Ignore.

There's no point to ignoring BK when making threads like this. That's half the fun right there.

[Caligastia]

Birth control isn't easily available now? You want they should stuff your pockets with condoms at every street corner?

Condoms are only effective if they are actually used, which is a tough sell to irresponsible kids. Intrauterine devices last for years. I'd support a taxpayer-funded program to make them freely available to anyone who wants them.

[Ben Kenobi]

It's pretty much a slam-dunk bet that the nut who did this was a Christian. Born-again Christian, even. They're crazy like that.

This is just bigotry. If it were something that Christians did on a regular basis, you'd see it happen more than once a decade. Roeder's just a loon.

So you do not support the death penalty?

Never have.

[Asher]

This is just bigotry. If it were something that Christians did on a regular basis, you'd see it happen more than once a decade. Roeder's just a loon.

It's not bigotry, it's common sense.

Have any abortion doctors in the US been killed/shot/assaulted by someone who was not a Christian? You can't find one instance of this not being the case.

FWIW, it does happen far more than once a decade.

Here's a bunch of murders in a single decade:
- March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Dr. Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
- July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside of another facility in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed September 3, 2003.
- December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi, who prior to his arrest was distributing pamphlets from Human Life International,[6] was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
- January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
- October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Dr. Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.

All Christians.

[SlowwHand]

This man is a lunatic. The fact that he proclaims himself a Christian, doesn't make him the common Christian, nor really Christian at all.
If you want to do that, then Mr Fun can serve as the gay poster boy. I don't think you want that.

[Ben Kenobi]

So in the 40 years that abortion has been around, there have been 6 people killed, and only one in the last 12 years? In a country that's majority Christian? Obviously Christians as a whole don't condone this crap.