Is the Catholic church a force for good in the world?

[Lorizael]

Some things are non-negotiables.

Let's say it's an extraordinarily important financial decision. Where to live, what house to buy, what private school to put your child in - that sort of thing. And the two of you fiercely disagree on the subject. You absolutely cannot reach a decision. But you know, from experience, that she's a better decision-maker. She just happens to be better at reasoning than you are. Who gets to make the decision?

[Ben Kenobi]

But you are saying on certain issues (Ephesians 5 being one) if the Catholics stray, you will leave. How are you different than the Evangelical in that way in dissenting?

How is going to a different parish 'straying'? The priests have strayed from what the church teaches, not me.

[Ben Kenobi]

Let's say it's an extraordinarily important financial decision. Where to live, what house to buy, what private school to put your child in - that sort of thing.

Assuming it's one of the friends that I trust?

1 and 2 would be no issue whatsoever. We'd be of like minds.

3, would probably be the only one. I personally do not like public schools.

[Ben Kenobi]

How about the children's attendance?

If they were well, I'd want them there.

[Ben Kenobi]

If YOU alone decide YOU need to go to church, it is NOT a family decision.

Asher, we aren't going to go here. I see it as a family decision. I've dealt with enough **** from family over my decision to go.

[Wezil]

And if your wife was dead set against it?

[Ben Kenobi]

Against what, the kids going, or her going or me going?

[Wezil]

I was talking about the kids Ben. You should know that.

[Ben Kenobi]

Just clarifying.

Dead set?

Wouldn't get that far with someone who was dead set against it. If she changed her mind, I honestly am not sure what I would do.

[DaShi]

This is the most bizarre hypothetical ever. Even if Ben met someone who believed his crap, she still wouldn't want him because he's deaf.

[Wezil]

Just clarifying.
Wouldn't get that far with someone who was dead set against it.

Christ almighty we're already on a razor thin hypothetical limb by assuming someone would wed you and bear your children. Go with it.

Scenario:

She was a good Catholic girl, a virgin even, when you married.

Several years on you have two young children and your wife has gone demented (in your mind and probably by your hand). She refuses to allow the children to receive any religious indoctrination inside or outside the home.

Being a good Catholic you obviously can't divorce the demented *****.

Do you put your foot down and insist the children go to church?

[Ben Kenobi]

Several years on you have two young children and your wife has gone demented (in your mind and probably by your hand). She refuses to allow the children to receive any religious indoctrination inside or outside the home.

A split would probably be inevitable.

Being a good Catholic you obviously can't divorce the demented *****.

Catholics vow in marriage that the children will be raised Catholic. If she reneges on that, I'd have grounds for the annulment.

Do you put your foot down and insist the children go to church?

Couple things here, kids are kids. We would have some serious issues to resolve that have nothing to do with them. If it came up say just between the two of us, I'd probably have the kids go to grandmas for awhile until we got this sorted out. If it came up on Sunday with all us heading out the door, I'd have them come along we would go, and then I'd probably come back take them to their grandmas and do the same.

[Wezil]

Didn't expect you'd give a straight answer.

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[Ben Kenobi]

My answer is very different depending on the type of breach. If she has misgivings, and wasn't sure at all, I'd probably keep them home, but I would go myself. My first concern would shift from them to her.

[Wezil]

Whatever Ben. You already answered in your non-answer way by invoking the married in the church bit. I take your answer to be "yes" to my question.